Fake Fic Summaries 10/?, the triple fusion edition (2015-11-07)

A/N1: I didn’t want to have two missed posts in a row, even if this is just barely sufficient. So here are three sort of fusion/crossover fics from various fandoms that I’ve been pondering but wouldn’t want to or really know where to start.

1) DCU x Assassin’s Creed

While training with Shiva, Tim Drake learns the truth behind a secret centuries-long conflict, the League of Assassins, and his own history. Five years later, the lost heir to Drake Industries and the Robin-that-wasn’t returns to Gotham.

In which Ra’s league is actually the Templars misappropriating the Assassin name and Tim’s legacy comes with a heavy set of responsibilities.

Visited my BFF and she was playing Assassin’s Creed III. Basically, while we were both having intense feelings over Conner and his doomed fate, I wondered a little about a possible fusion. At first, I considered Damian since he’s literally an assassin baby, but the more I thought about it the more I realized that there’s no way that Ra’s was an Assassin fighting for people’s right to freedom. No, he’s more like a Templar–fight for “peace” through order. But then… why is his organization called the League of Assassins?

Likely, the real Assassins are few in number and scattered, losing the war against the Templars. Shiva is one such true assassin and, having discovered Tim’s lineage, decided to teach him about his own heritage. And this was one of the few ways where I can picture Tim being derailed from his duties as Robin.

2) Star vs The Forces of Evil x Elementary

When there are cases that stump other psychiatrists, they refer to Dr. Marco Diaz. For a such a bland seeming man, he has a talent with the more unusual patients.

Then he gets a call from a completely different dimension. He’s about to get a client who redefines the definition of unusual and an adventure for a lifetime.

This one, I admit, I was mostly influenced by me binge-watching Elementary and Star vs The Forces of Evil within the past month. Because the idea of a bewildered but competent adult psychiatrist Marco being drawn into the eccentric and conflicted Star’s evil/crime fighting paralleled Joan and Sherlock’s relationship very easily to me. Also, Tom and his demon horde as Irene/Moriarty? I dunno.

3) Naruto x Avatar the Last Airbender

In which Sai can only express his heritage through art, Sakura rails against her role as a pink-haired novelty, Sasuke is still the last of his red-eyed fire-breathing clan, and Naruto will not let the Air Nomads be forgotten–even if he was a shameful abomination in their opinion.

Also includes Kakashi, the first moon-blessed baby to fire-bend, and Yamato/Tenzo, who can’t bend anything but plants.

Basically, expanded Team Seven in the Avatar universe! Because the elements match up pretty well with Sai being a water-bender, Sakura as earth, Sasuke as fire, and Naruto as air. As for Naruto being a “shameful abomination” I
was trying to figure out what would be a jinchuuriki equivalent but then I remembered that, as far as we know, air-benders can also be spirit-benders. So what if Minato, the pride of the Air Nomads, took a journey into the Spirit World, fell in love with Kushina a fox spirit, and had a half-spirit half-human baby Naruto.

Then considering Kakashi’s white hair but lightning affinity I figured well… maybe his father was Water Tribe, therefore, moon-blessed but his mother was Fire Nation. Which could take the place of Sakumo’s failed mission–like, if he was considered a traitor to the tribe and so he left to have his family. But then Kakashi’s mother died and so Sakumo had no tribe, no wife, and a baby who he tried his best with. But grief/depression being what it is… well.

As for Yamato/Tenzo… I’ll be honest, I don’t know that much about him? Like… he’s got some Senju DNA and he was in ROOT/ANBU but not anymore? I dunno. Maybe I can have some kind of Dai Li subplot with him but… mreh.

Anyway, I figure this kind of happens concurrently with the series. So they’re all roughly the same age as the characters of the show. Even Aang and Naruto–Aang having been frozen in an iceberg and Naruto having some strange sort of slowed aging/immortality and having lived the century out. Well… maybe he was asleep too. I dunno. I know that throws off the Kakashi and Minato mentor/student relationship but I’m kind of fond of the idea…

Ooh! What if the Uchiha clan had Naruto sealed, but then Itachi did his whole massacre the clan thing but this time it was because he was such a principled person. Like, he couldn’t stand the idea that his clan’s success/status in the Fire Nation was because they had essentially enslaved a sentient being. So he kills them all (except Sasuke), sets Naruto free, then gets imprisoned. I dunno.

I also don’t want Sakura’s story to parallel Toph’s too much. Er, I suppose in my head her story would shake out a little bit to something like the shoujo manga Akagami no Shirayuki-hime. Aka Red-haired Snow White. In which a red-haired “commoner” is chosen to be a prince’s concubine because of her rare red hair, instead of agreeing, Shirayuki basically cuts off her hair, leaves for the neighboring kingdom in order to become a pharmacist/doctor, and accidentally meets/falls in love with the neighboring kingdom’s prince. It’s great, go read it, it’s super cute.

Fake Fic Summaries 9/?, the Community x The Martian crossover edition (2015-11-02)

A/N1: Just watched The Martian, it wasn’t in any way groundbreaking or innovative but it was still very enjoyable. Also, I love Donald Glover and he was fantastic in this movie.

I don’t think I have the chops to pull off a fic like this, hence fake summary and tiny drabble only. Anyway, let’s roll.

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The Gravitational Pull of Triple Star Systems (title subject to change)

After two assassination attempts, FBI Agent Annie Edison is given authorization to do whatever it takes to keep NASA astrodynamicist Rich Purnell alive. So she takes him home.

Home being, of course, Hawthorne Manor. 

Well, I saw Rich Purnell in The Martian and immediately thought–that is Troy’s body with Abed’s personality and Annie’s determination/intelligence. Then I had weird OT3 feels and had to reread some Community fic. 

And here we are. 

This is after Season 6, obviously, in which even though the trio went to pursue their different dreams, they can still make a home together. Given that basically everything has been left to Troy (although I forget if that specifically included the manor or not) so long as he finished the around the world boating journey, I figured it would give Troy a sort of wanderlust. And, also, LeVar Burton is cool so maybe Troy simultaneously invested in a new educational show for him, like different cultures around the world for kids. It became wildly successful and, as producer, Troy gets to join the crew as well.

I have a lot of little head-canons like this for the three of them that I would like to fit in.

Like how Abed’s first big hit was actually a documentary of LeVar and Troy’s around the world trip with claymation for the parts that weren’t filmed/photographed. It’s widely heralded as one of the most educational family films of the twenty first century. Which, okay, is very specific but as an independent filmmaker that is very impressive. More recently he wants to or has been authorized to work on The Martian documentary (the Ares IV or V having brought back all of Mark Watney’s log footage and taking pictures of the Hab).

I also have a weird desire to have Annie’s skyrocketing success in the FBI be due to all the weird shit that she learned/put up with at Greendale. Like she just finds all the training to be kind of boring in comparison to paintball wars, and all those weirdly specific classes mean that she has a completely different knowledge set than her peers. A successfully different knowledge set at that. Also, let’s be honest, she probably went to visit Shirley at one point and got involved with the weird supernatural crime drama that is The Butcher and The Baker (like a special two-part episode). The FBI greatly appreciates agents who can thrive when everything becomes incomprehensible.

Anyway, so the three of them aren’t really at the manor all that often, because their jobs require them to be elsewhere but they try their best. When the events of the summary occur, Annie figures the safest place is a well-fortified manor in a tiny city no one has really heard of, Abed is in between projects (or maybe he does the majority of his editing in the Hawthorne manor, a la Christopher Walken’s role as the director in America’s Sweethearts ), and Troy just got back from another episode of LeVar’s show. Finally, Rich has found people as lovely and ridiculous as him.

Not necessarily saying that my OT3 has expanded into a crossover OT4, buuuut… here’s an unfinished drabble:

Troy’s brain is still set to a different time zone, but he does his best to join them for breakfast whenever possible. Shuffling into the dining room, Troy greets them.

“Good morning, Abed,” he mumbles, brushing a sleepy kiss to Abed’s cheek, “good morning, Annie,” he continues, doing the same for her.

“Good morning, Troy,” he finishes, smacking a third kiss onto Rich’s bewildered face, before wobbling his way towards the coffee pot.

It takes almost a full minute, Annie and Abed exchanging silent glances, Rich shocked into stillness, but after a few sips of coffee the lightbulb turns on. 

“Good morning… alternate timeline Troy?” Troy tries again, “You’re not the evil one, are you?”

“Troy!” Annie scolds, patting a greatly confused Rich’s arm soothingly. It helps a little until she says, “I would never let our evil selves into Hawthorne Manor." 

"Also, his facial hair isn’t a goatee,” Abed adds, “It’s just a regular beard. And it’s his hair, not felt.”

From the expression on Rich’s face, the direction of the conversation is really not helping out his confusion. Even though, normally, he does get confused by people this really isn’t the same thing.

“Rich also still has his vocal cords intact,” Annie says, before looking significantly at him.

It takes him a few moments to realize she wants him to speak, because he stammers when he says, “Uh. Hi, I’m Rich. I work for NASA.”

“That’s cool,” Troy responds, earnestly, because it really is. It’s like Inspector Spacetime but real. And without the time travel. So maybe it’s just outer space, like Star Trek. Except not in the future. “I’m Troy. I don’t really work anywhere.”

“More like, he works everywhere,” Annie corrects with a proud smile.

~

A/N2: Aaaand that’s all I got for now… I highly recommend both The Martian and Community if you haven’t watched either. 

Character Analysis: Dreaming of Sunshine, Team Eight (2015-10-29)

A/N1: Check out Team Seven and Team Ten, if you haven’t.

Hinata

the Ego
Phlegmatic – Apathetic/Conflicted
(I/e=A)NFP – Idealist – Healer
Gryffindor
Neutral/lawful Good

Kiba

the Id
Choleric – Realist
ESF(P/j) – Artisan – Performer
Hufflepuff
True/chaotic Neutral

Shino

the Superego
Melancholic – Cynic
ISTJ – Guardian – Inspector
Slytherin / Ravenclaw
Lawful Good/neutral

Kurenai

the Mentor
Sanguine – Optimist
ENT(P/j) – Rational – Inventor
Ravenclaw / Slytherin
Lawful Neutral/good

I’ve decided not to do the Five-Man Band since I hate it and it doesn’t contribute much if anything to the analysis.

Surprisingly, Team Eight was fairly easy to do–the designations weren’t what I expected at the beginning, but they were easy.

Anyway, reasoning under the cut.

The Freudian Trio

Team Eight is an almost perfect representation of the Freudian Trio. My only hold back is that, in the beginning, Hinata (the Ego) doesn’t mediate between Kiba (the Id) and Shino (the Superego) so much as she lets them argue it out and have Kurenai (the Mentor) decide. Thankfully, Hinata’s entire character development is her gaining self-confidence so, if anything, Team Eight is become more like the ideal Freudian Trio as they grow older.

The Four-Temperament Ensemble / The Four-Philosophy Ensemble

Given my continued confusion over the Four-Temperament Ensemble, I ended up relying a bit more on the related Four-Philosophy Ensemble to make my decisions. Additionally, for this go around, I ignored the emotional vs rational binary amongst the Temperament (whereas in the Team Seven character analysis, I ignored the introverted vs extroverted).

Between the introverts–Hinata and Shino–it’s pretty obvious that Hinata is the people-oriented one and Shino the task-oriented one. Making Hinata the Phlegmatic one and Shino the Melancholic one. Likewise, Hinata matches the “Conflicted” philosophy more, whereas Shino matches the “Cynic” philosophy more (I definitely would not consider Hinata a cynic).

Amongst the extroverts–Kiba and Kurenai (I’m not entirely sure she is an extrovert, but we only ever see her in a group setting)–I believe that Kurenai is the people-oriented one. Considering her expertise is genjutsu–illusions of the mind–and her continued devotion to her students’ mental and emotional health. In contrast, I believe Kiba is the more task-oriented one–it’s not readily clear since he is in touch with his emotions (considering he’s the Id of Team Eight, he is emotions), but as far as it goes with his actions, Kiba is the kind of person to pursue a goal regardless of other people’s feelings.

With Kurenai as the Sanguine, and Kiba as the Choleric, that would result in Kurenai being the “Optimist” with Kiba as the “Realist.” Which is a little surprising to me, considering that Kurenai is the jounin sensei and Kiba the less experienced shinobi, but it… kind of makes sense. Kurenai is a recent jounin, a lot of her interaction with her team is hopeful–they’re her first set of students, she wants to see them succeed but more than that she wants to see them happy. In contrast, Kiba is member of the Inuzuka clan–which, from the outset, does not seem all that significant, all of the Rookie Nine are part of shinobi clans–but I perceive the Inuzuka clan, and Kiba’s immediate family in particular, to be very open and candid with their experience. As such, I get the feeling that Kiba is second-hand exposed to a lot of the shinobi world.

Myers-Briggs Types and Keirsey Temperament

(Review: Extroversion vs Introversion, Sensing vs iNtuition, Thinking vs Feeling, Judging vs Perceiving. _NF_=Idealist, _NT_=Rational, _S_P=Artisan, _S_J=Guardian)

As I’ve listed above, these are the types and temperaments that I believe matches each member of Team Eight.

Hinata: (I/e=A)NFP – Idealist – Healer
Hinata is comfortable on her own, but she does enjoy and crave company even if it makes her nervous (hence ambivert leaning towards introversion). Much of Hinata’s character is about belief–that she can do more and be more than her past. She remembers interactions as they affect her relationships, and is willing to take people at their words more than their past actions *cough*NEJI*cough*. Her behavior is definitely based on her emotions rather than logic. And she is more likely to wait and react than instigate activities.

Kiba: ESF(P/j) – Artisan – Performer
Kiba, unsurprisingly, is an extrovert–while he can handle being alone (with Akamaru, that is)–he is more energetic around other people. He relies more heavily on what is tangible than abstract ideas, what he (and others around him) has experienced more than what might happen in the future. Considering he is the Id of the team, its unsurprising he’s more of a Feeler than a Thinker. As for my uncertainty on perceiving vs judging, well… Kiba is reactionary and adaptable, he doesn’t plan but rather stays open for possible opportunities, but he is decisive–once he does decide on a course of action he will pull through with it.

Shino: ISTJ – Guardian – Inspector
Shino’s designations are pretty obvious, even though we know comparatively less of him. Introversion, is a bit of a guess, but he doesn’t seem to actively crave become energized by company. For both sensing and thinking, this is mostly because of the rare occasions where he does have dialogue. He lists out pieces of information and how it leads to the ultimate, logical conclusion. Likewise, this method of rationality leans toward the judging side rather than perceiving.

Kurenai: ENT(P/j) – Rational – Inventor
As mentioned in the previous section, I do think that Kurenai is an extrovert (though we know very little of her as well). Additionally, given that she is a genjutsu expert, I believe that she would rely on her intuition more on her senses because she knows just how easily senses can be fooled.  For all that she is in touch with her emotions, I don’t she is ruled by them necessarily–in some cases, I think she acts in spite of them. As for perceiving/judging, well, like with all of the jounin sensei, she has to be a little of both due to her career–as for why I think she’s leans more heavily toward the perceiving end, well, ultimately her behavior is in response to someone else’s actions or decisions.

Hogwarts Houses

I may be a little bias on this one, just because I’ve always had the headcanon that Hinata is a Gryffindor of the Neville Longbottom variety. With that in mind, Kiba would then be the Hufflepuff of the team–loyalty, determination; he’s not as much of the rabid badger Hufflepuff as Sasuke is, but he’s close. As for Ravenclaw and Slytherin, well, I’m not really sure.

Both Kurenai and Shino are intelligent, but given Kurenai’s intelligence leans more towards the creative and Shino’s the practical I tentatively say that Kurenai is the Ravenclaw and Shino is the Slytherin. Additionally, while it’s more a sign of his ability than ambition, Shino was one of two to make chuunin during the first exams. Then again, considering how difficult it must be for a genjutsu specialist to become a full jounin rather than be stuck as a special jounin, Kurenai must be ambitious as well.

D&D Alignment

As you can probably tell, I was a little unsure about alignments for Team Eight.

Hinata: Neutral/lawful Good. Hinata is clearly good–but her lawful leaning is actually detrimental to her; her character arc is her striving and failing to conform to her father’s idea of a Hyuuga heiress. It’s when she steps away from that standard that she grows into herself.

Kiba: True/chaotic Neutral. Of Team Eight, Kiba is the closest to being chaotic leaning–but while he does enjoy the occasional ruckus, he does adhere to orders so long as they are from someone he acknowledges as superior in hierarchy. As for neutral, pack is what is most important to him–so long as his friends and family are okay, he doesn’t really care about anything else.

Shino: Lawful Good/neutral. Shino is, if anything, more likely to bend the law to his own use or find loopholes which allow him to act. Luckily, he is good at heart–if in a cold utilitarian way, optimizing the most benefit for the most people; though he does make exceptions for his friends of course, hence the neutral leaning.

Kurenai: Lawful Neutral/good. Given the creativity needed for genjutsu, Kurenai doesn’t step out of line at all if ever; maybe it’s because she’s a recent jounin and doesn’t want to misstep. As for Neutral/good, I think her concern is centered around her team/Asuma/her friends–she doesn’t seem to extend that care to others. Then again, her actions aren’t inherently selfish so…

Character Analysis: Dreaming of Sunshine, Team Ten (2015-10-26)

A/N1: Because I am a glutton for punishment. This one was much harder than Team Seven’s (partially because there’s less material to work with, but also because… well… I’ll explain below).

If you’re reading this, I presume you’ve already read the Team Seven edition. If not, I highly suggest reading that one first because I explain most of the various team/group tropes/tests there. I will still be providing links to the related articles/websites, though, so don’t worry.

For consistency, I’ve included the TVTropes’ character analysis devices even though I’m not at all keen on them and they don’t make much sense to me. Which probably explains why I’m so conflicted about the allocations, but I tried my best and I hope it makes sense.

Chouji

the Ego / the Id
Sanguine (/ Phlegmatic)
The (Big) Chick
(E/i=A)SFP – Artisan
Hufflepuff
Neutral Good

Ino

the Id / the Superego
Phlegmatic (/ Sanguine)
The Lancer
ENFJ – Idealist
Slytherin
Lawful Neutral/good

Shikamaru

the Superego / the Ego
Melancholic
The Smart Hero
ISTJ – Guardian
Ravenclaw
True Neutral

Asuma

the Mentor
Choleric
The Big Guy
ENT(J/p) – Rational
Gryffindor
Lawful Good/neutral

Super conflicted reasoning under the cut

The Freudian Trio

From the outset, who fills which role of the Freudian Trio isn’t all that obvious. It’s not like with Team Seven where there are two obvious polar opposites and a mediator in between. So I tried positing a series of what ifs. That is, what if each member of the team was the ego, who would be the id and who would be the superergo. I got the following:

A) If Chouji is ego then Ino is id, Shikamaru is superego.
– Ino is the one to push him, get him to act. Shikamaru is the one to guide him in the how.
B) If Shikamaru is ego then Chouji is id, Ino is superego.
– Chouji is his personal needs, safety and contentment. Ino is the one to bring up societal expectations.
C) If Ino is ego then Shikamaru is id, Chouji is superego.
– Shikamaru brings out her animalistic emotions, gets her to fight. Chouji is the idealism, represents the why she fights.

This cyclical allocation is rather vague, but I think it’s about right. Which makes this both frustrating and fascinating. Frustrating because everyone is everything, and fascinating for the same reason.

In the strictest sense of the Freudian Trio trope, however, variant C doesn’t make very much sense because I wouldn’t call Shikamaru and Chouji polar opposites or Ino the mediator. A and B fit better with the trope–A as more of an outsider point of view with B as the insider point of view. And, again, with jounin sensei Asuma as the separate Mentor role.

The Four-Temperament Ensemble (and The Four Philosophy Ensemble)

As I’ve said before, I’m not very keen on this group/character device since it just really doesn’t make much sense to me, but I tried. Here’s my rough breakdown of the four temperaments and the Myers-Briggs equivalent:

Phlegmatic (intro – rational – people) –  I_TP – Ino( / Choji)
Sanguine (extro – emotional – people) – E_FP – Choji (/ Ino)
Choleric (extro – rational – task) – E_TJ
Melancholic (intro – emotional – task) – I_FJ

The clear cut ones are Shikamaru and Asuma, with the former being Melancholic and the latter being Choleric. Both of them are task oriented, and between the two it’s obvious that Shikamaru is the introvert while Asuma is the extrovert.

As for rational versus emotional, I’d say both of them are equally prone to using logic and feelings depending on the situation. We see it time and time again with Shikamaru, especially as relates to his sister. With Asuma it’s not as obvious, since we don’t really know much of him through canon or through DoS, but I know that he’s got issues with his father and that manifested in him wanting to strike out for his own (becoming one of the Twelve Guardians, some of the few shinobi who are not legally under the control of the Hokage) so I imagine he’s a bit of a rebel.

As for the people oriented members of Team Ten, well, I actually think it depends on when exactly we’re talking about them. More recently, Ino has been the Phlegmatic one (despite being an extreme extrovert and not at all an introvert) due to her PTSD from Orochimaru’s possession; whereas earlier she was the Sanguine one, bright and engaging. In contrast, Chouji’s early childhood bullying/uncertainty made him the more Phlegmatic one, and now that he’s older and more settled into himself he is the Sanguine one.

To be honest, I had to turn the the Four Philosophy Ensemble to completely make my decisions. The four philosophies and the four temperaments roughly approximate to each other as such:

Melancholic = Cynic
Choleric = Realist
Sanguine = Optimist
Phlegmatic = Apathetic / Conflicted

As previously stated, Shikamaru and Asuma are easy enough–the former as the cynic and the latter as the realist. As for Chouji and Ino, it’s the difference between the temperaments versus the philosophy ensembles that tripped me up–Ino didn’t match the description of Phlegmatic but she was a match for the Conflicted, whereas Chouji wasn’t quite a perfect Sanguine but definitely matched Optimist more than Ino did–I decided that the issue was a matter of time. Or, rather, when in their development the both of them were. Hence the double allocation.

The Five-Man Band

Ugh, this trope sucks, but consistency is consistency so here we go:

Jounin sensei kind of default to The Big Guy role, hence Asuma’s allocation. Although, if I didn’t have to include Asuma, I would assign his students as the following. Shikamaru, the Smart Hero–a mix of the smart guy (for obvious reasons) and the hero, as the leader of Team Ten (he makes the decisions and feels responsibility for his friends whenever they get hurt). Ino, the Lancer–she is the foil to Shikamaru, emotional where he is logical, aggressive where he is passive, etc. Chouji, the (Big) Chick–I hate the naming scheme, but he is the peacemaker of the team and undeniably the physically strongest (barring Asuma, of course).

The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator

Super quick breakdown of Myers-Briggs Types. It’s a set of four binary spectra: Extroversion vs Introversion, Sensing vs iNtuition, Feeling vs Thinking, and Judging vs Perceiving. So let’s go!

Chouji is an ambivert (the in between of extrovert and introvert) in pretty much the exact opposite way that Shikako is. While she oscillates between solitude and large groups, Chouji does better with smaller groups and essentially shrivels in isolation. For all that he is an optimist, he lives in the moment–he trusts what he experiences for himself. In particular, I bring up his response to Naruto’s reveal of himself as the Kyuubi jinchuuriki. While the Nara twins are unphased because they already know/suspected, Chouji does not have that advantage. But he still believes in Naruto because he knows that Naruto is a good person, their shared history proves as such. Feeling is obvious, and Perceiving likewise. (E/i=A)SFP

Ino’s was almost ridiculously straightforward: she’s an obvious extrovert. She’s been repeatedly described and shown to be highly intuitive. She’s an inherently feelings motivated person. She’s decisive and has on multiple occasions shown her proclivity for strategic planning. ENFJ

Shikamaru likewise is very straightforward: he’s the only introvert on Team Ten (poor him!) He’s detail oriented, trusts in what he witnesses for himself more than what others say (cynic, remember?). Very obviously a thinker more than a feeler, and especially a strategic planner at that. ISTJ

Unsurprising, given how little we know of Asuma, my allocations for him are rather spotty. I presume he’s an extrovert given how frequently he hangs out with the other jounin (rather than be dragged out reluctantly like Kakashi) and how well he works in tandem with others. As for intuition, this is mostly a guess–he seems like a big picture kind of person, and is likely to trust people at their word. And, given his rocky relationship with his father, remembers events not with objective details but with their deeper, subjective meaning. I decided on Thinking as he does make decisions rationally, even if the goals themselves are founded in emotions, and the mix of Judging and perceiving is just something I assume every experienced shinobi must have. ENT(J/p)

The Keirsey Temperaments

Given the above Myers-Briggs types, figuring out the Keirsey temperaments is easy enough. Chouji, (E/i=A)SFP, is an Artisan; specifically the Performer (edit: after reviewing, I believe Choji is more like the Composer–ISFP–which makes sense given he is an ambivert). Ino, ENFJ, is an Idealist; specifically the Teacher. Shikamaru, ISTJ, is a Guardian; specifically the Inspector (which he definitely matches more than Sasuke). Asuma, ENT(J/p), is a Rational; specifically the Fieldmarshal. You can check out the descriptions of the temperaments, and their more specific titles, in the second link provided above. I’m fairly confident in these allocations, even for Asuma whom I know very little about.

Hogwarts Houses (is a link even necessary?)

This “test” is surprisingly the least difficult for me to run given that Hogwarts Houses has always seemed to be the almost bewilderingly subjective. Everyone on Team Ten is almost perfectly stereotypical representations of their Houses. Chouji, whose main trait is compassion and loyalty, an obvious Hufflepuff. Ino, ambitious and cunning, a Slytherin (definitely more so than anyone else on the team). Shikamaru–intelligent, creative, daydreamer–Ravenclaw. And Asuma, the Gryffindor (based on his likely rebellious-against-his-father but still-for-the-good-of-Fire-Country history and, of all things, his bluntness).

D&D Alignment

Team Ten, as a whole, is definitely more lawful than Team Seven (aka Team Trouble) though their good to neutral levels are about the same.

Chouji is Neutral Good–given he was a part of the troublemaking groups in canon at the Academy, he clearly doesn’t hold rules to be the end-all be-all of everything–and while he is loyal, he’s also an optimist. Hypothetically, he wouldn’t mindlessly follow after a friend turned evil, but he would try to convince them to come back to the good side or would believe, at heart, that they were good and need only be reminded of that.

Ino, having been raised by her parents with to have a firm belief in Konoha and its administration, is very distinctly lawful. But her ultimate loyalties are towards herself and her friends–her people, which, admittedly is quite a large group–not the ideal of a village. Theoretically, if someone were to take over Konoha and make it evil, she wouldn’t outrightly join the rebellion but she would probably toe the line and feed information to friends in the rebellion. She’s a Lawful Neutral edging into Lawful Good.

Shikamaru is a True Neutral. It’s not as obvious as it is with Sasuke, but Shikamaru is on a moral edge. He, amongst the entire team, would be the most likely to slide into Evil under the right circumstances (*cough*ahurtShikako*cough*). As for the law, well, laws are restrictive and chaos is too much work. Rules he can take or leave, but above all else his friends and family have to be okay.

Asuma, much like Ino, has been raised to respect the law of Konoha and Fire Country. The Good edging into Neutral is, again, a bit of a guess, but given that he continued to work for the greater good of village and country despite his hangups with his father, it seemed like a decent enough choice. Mainly I just don’t know if he’s done anything selfish–sure, he left Konoha, but only because becoming one of the Twelve Guardians allowed him to serve Fire Country without having to be under his father’s direct control.

A/N2: Not as satisfied with this one as the first, but mostly because there’s less info to analyze for these characters. Ugh, I shudder to think what doing Team Gai would be like.

Character Analysis: Dreaming of Sunshine, Team Seven (2015-10-21)

A/N1: Because Chapter 105 reminded me about just how wonderfully ruthless and cunning Shikako really is, and I’m always a sucker for the categorization of things. As for the title–I’m not promising that I will do the other teams/characters, but I’m also not saying that I won’t.

On the TVTropes page, the members of Team Seven have already been labelled into their respective roles within the Freudian Trio / Four-Temperament Ensemble / Five-Man Band (don’t worry about the numbers, it will all make sense later). Which, for the most part, I agree with (my problem has more to do with how the website defines the roles than the allocation of them, but with TVTropes you really do have to read everything with a grain of salt).

However, I wanted to add some of my own analysis and labeling because, well, my brain thinks it’s fun. And maybe some of my fellow DoS fans will get some enjoyment out of reading this.

Here are the members of Team Seven and their respective allocations. The normal font is from the TVTropes site while the bolded and italicized are my own additions/adjustments.

Naruto

the Id (the Superego)
Sanguine
The Hero
E(N/s)FP – Idealist
Gryffindor
Chaotic Good

Sasuke

the Superego (the Id)
Choleric (Melancholic)
The Lancer
IS(T/f)J – Guardian
Hufflepuff
True Neutral

Shikako

the Ego
Melancholic (Choleric)
The Smart Chick
(I/e=A)NTP – Rational
Slytherin
Chaotic Neutral

Kakashi

the Mentor
Phlegmatic
The Big Guy
IST(P/j) – Artisan
Ravenclaw
Neutral Good

Super long reasoning under the cut

The Freudian Trio 

You’ve seen this before. You know what this is even if you don’t quite know the terminology behind it. It’s Kirk, Bones, and Spock. It’s Ron, Harry, and Hermione. Id, Ego, Superego.

According to Freud, an individual human mind is made of three parts. However in the media, we more often see these aspects of the psyche split between three different members of a group, making the team seem more cohesive if they are all parts of a greater whole rather than three distinct beings.

In it’s most known form, Id is the animalistic, emotions and instincts, Superego is the rational, logic and intellect, and Ego is the one stuck in between. Two polar opposites and the mediator.

Even without knowing which is which, it’s easy to describe Team Seven that way (even canon Team Seven at that). Naruto vs Sasuke, with Shikako as the mediator. And from the outset, with the most commonly used definitions and as a Team, I do agree with the TVTropes allocation–Naruto as Id, Shikako as Ego, Sasuke as Superego.

Naruto is more heart than logic, he is action first and reasoning later (if ever). Sasuke holds himself up to a higher standard (whether as an avenger or to Itachi or simply the idea of a strong shinobi). And Shikako is left juggling the two. From an outsider’s point of view it’s obvious, from a reader’s observatory point of view it makes sense.

But I propose that, as a story with Shikako as the protagonist–that is, from Shikako’s point of view–Naruto is the Superego while Sasuke is the Id.

This allocation also uses a slightly different interpretation of the Freudian Trio. Or, rather, emphasizing the motivations behind each part more so than the behavior.

The Id is emotions and instinct, yes, but it is animalistic. It is driven by a personal, self-centered, desire to survive above all. It is “if I am threatened, fight or flight.” It is “if I am weak, I must get stronger.” It is “if I want something, then I’ll take it.” It is “if I am hurt, retaliate.” It is Sasuke. Or rather, Shikako’s relationship with him.

He is a self-proclaimed avenger–he was hurt and now he wants to fix it. Everything about him–his need to grow stronger, his possessiveness over his friends, his fear and hatred of Itachi–it’s an animalistic reaction to the Uchiha Massacre. He wants revenge, he doesn’t want that to happen again; he needs power in order to fulfill both.

It’s these desires that Shikako keeps in mind when she interacts with him. If anything, she has to use logic to pull him away from his more destructive tendencies–the main one being the Curse Seal from Orochimaru: During the Konoha Chuunin Exam, she acknowledges that the Curse Seal is power, yes, but it’s going to prevent him from getting revenge. It’s poison, she says, it’s hurting him more than it will help him. And so he turns away from it. Before the Sasuke Retrieval arc, she knows he’s tempted by the easy route to power, and so she has to remind him that it’s in Konoha where both Itachi and Orochimaru became strong.

Even on her end, when she’s scared–of Itachi, of Danzo–she tells Sasuke. When she wants to get stronger, she trains with Sasuke (Konoha Chuunin Exam–speed training, Grass Chuunin Exam, sword training from Kakashi. Although this is mostly because the two of them simply have more opportunities what with Naruto’s vastly differing training needs. Arguably, though, there is Replacement Tag which Shikako and Sasuke both immediately knew had value whereas Naruto had to be coaxed into training). When she fights, when she is pushed into split-second, ruthless actions, it’s most often because Sasuke is in danger (Wave arc, when she took down Haku, Konoha Chuunin Exams against Orochimaru and the Sound genin, taking Sasuke’s place in the Tsukuyomi, etc. etc.)

In contrast there is her relationship with Naruto. A lot of her one-on-one interaction with him is cerebral–purposefully so, since she has been trying to improve his strategic thinking–but a surprising amount of it is her going to him for guidance. Shikako has, on multiple occasions, based her battle strategy on “What would Naruto do?” and that is when she has time to think before she acts. She looks to him as her moral compass as well–mercy, mainly–and if anything, she’s the one to tell him that pacifism isn’t practical.

Naruto is the idealist of the team, he wants power not for it’s intrinsic value, not as a weapon to hurt those who have hurt him, but to become Hokage; to protect the people and the village he loves, to be able to fulfill his promises. The Superego is logic and intellect, yes, but it idealism more than anything. It’s making decisions based on a higher standard of reasoning. It’s mercy towards your enemies, it’s the idea that you don’t have to fight to win, it’s making a goal and striving for it–not reactions to the past.

Hence, my proposition that–as relates to Shikako, the Ego–Naruto is the Superego while Sasuke is the Id.

Now Kakashi isn’t part of the trio (for obvious numeric reasons) because he kind of can’t be. The Freudian Trio is meant to showcase how a group grows and develops as a metaphor for a single person. But Kakashi is already grown–sure he’s become more in touch emotionally and having such troublemakers for students changes a person, but he’s essentially a separate being. Hence Kakashi being the Mentor which, obvious, since he’s literally their jounin sensei. But as an archetype/plot device, he is the team’s mentor. Where Shikako relates to Naruto through ideals, as a hope for the future, and she relates to Sasuke through needs, as a motivation for the present, her relationship with Kakashi is the past.

More than anything the Mentor is experience, she talks to him about remembering the night of the Kyuubi, she asks about his stories in the field. He’s not her moral compass or her survival instincts, but she goes to him for guidance because he has experience. In a way, she cannot change him because he’s past the point of being changed, and so unlike with Naruto and Sasuke (both of whom she can improve) Shikako isn’t worried about her affect on Kakashi, because he’s separate.

The Four-Temperament Ensemble

I’ll admit that I know the least about the Four-Temperament Ensemble as it is described in TvTropes and in general… mostly because it doesn’t really make sense to me? In a way, it’s a bit like Myers-Briggs, but it shakes down to three binaries rather than four and not every option matches a named Temperament unless one of the binaries is ignored.

Let me explain. The three binaries are: Extroversion vs Introversion, eMotional vs Rational, and People-oriented vs Task-oriented. This results in eight options, but only four are considered part of the Temperament Ensemble, as follows: EMP (Sanguine), IMP, ERT (Choleric), IRT, EMT, IMT (Melancholic), ERP, IRP (Phlegmatic).

Which means that one of the binaries doesn’t matter. I personally interpret the Extroversion vs Introversion to be the one that doesn’t matter (though you could consider it to be the eMotional vs Rational), which means that the Four Temperament Ensemble is really just based on two binaries. And that makes allocating roles to Team Seven very easy.

Naruto is very obviously emotional and people-oriented–hence, Sanguine. Kakashi is unmistakably rational(/unemotional/apathetic) and people-oriented (his role is literally to teach and protect his genin students), and so he is Phlegmatic. As for the two task-oriented members of Team Seven, well, I can interpret both of them as being either Choleric (rational task-oriented) or Melancholic (emotional task-oriented).

If you check the TVTropes page and its extensive list of characteristics related to the Four Temperaments, you can see how some of Choleric’s descriptions describe Sasuke and how some describe Shikako. Likewise with Melancholic. The overlap has to do with how each of them process emotions and rationality.

Sasuke, as I discussed in the above Freudian trio section, is emotionally driven, but he uses logic and his intellect when he acts. In contrast, Shikako is rationally driven–she needs to get stronger and help others get stronger because danger is approaching–but she uses her emotions(/relationships/other people’s emotions) in order to achieve her goals. Overall, I’d say Shikako and Sasuke are about fifty-fifty either way for Melancholic and Choleric.

The Five-Man Band

The Five-Man Band is, simply put, a group of five people who have complementary skills/personalities. Traditionally it consists of The Hero, The Lancer, The Smart Guy, The Big Guy, and The Chick. But that set up is fairly outdated, being rooted in media from the 60s/70s and all, so it’s not something that requires much analysis or investment. Basically, though, just don’t have too much overlap or repetition and you should be okay.

Since this is a team of four, obviously we either have to omit one or mash up two into a single role. Shikako is the latter because she is not just there to be the token girl (though, you might argue that canon Sakura is because Masashi Kishimoto is distressingly sexist). Anyway, that gives us Naruto as the Hero, Sasuke as the Lancer (aka the Anti-Hero), with Shikako being both the Smart Guy and the Chick (hence, Smart Chick), and Kakashi as the Big Guy (more as a role than a personality–in general, Big Guys are characterized to be more brawn than brain, but as a plot device they are the ones who end up fighting separately so the rest of the team can fight elsewhere). The explanation for these are pretty simple, so that’s all for this section.

Now is when I step away from the TVTropes and towards my usual battery of character analysis tests. The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, the related Keirsey-Bates Temperaments, Hogwarts Houses*, and D&D Alignment.

The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator

As I mentioned above in the Four-Temperament Ensemble, the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is a set of four binaries which leads to a total of sixteen potential personality combinations. The binaries are: Extroversion vs Introversion, Sensing vs iNtuition, Thinking vs Feeling, and Judging vs Perceiving. It’s simple enough to apply the list of binaries to each character and figure out where on the spectrum they fall.

For Naruto there is no doubt he is an extrovert–especially in the technical sense of the word, in that he gains energy by being around large amounts of people. His enthusiasm and motivation is heavily dependent on others around him; even in canon, when he is alone, he turns quiet and pensive. While he does have some sensing tendencies–being a physical and hands-on learner–he is more intuitive. He’s known for solving problems in unusual ways, requires constant mental stimulation (either learning a new jutsu, playing a game, otherwise he’ll turn to pranking), and he’s a big picture/ideals kind of person.

For decision making, he’s unsurprisingly a feeler more than a thinker; and when it comes to interacting with the outside world he keeps his options open, preferring to react than plan everything out. 

tl;dr Naruto is E(N/s)FP

In contrast, Sasuke is very obviously introverted–and not because he’s an anti-social jerk, but because he honestly works better with less people and he only emotionally connects with a few special individuals. He relies heavily on his senses, what he’s experienced for himself, and what he can immediately and tangibly influence. He will take things at face value and, especially in canon, rarely looks beyond the surface of a situation.

As previously stated, he has an odd contradiction of being emotionally-driven but logically-acting–so when it comes to Thinking vs Feeling he’s a little of both. However, because he very rarely considers what other people are feeling, he is more Thinking in the Myers-Briggs definition. As previously stated, he’s very task-oriented and focuses more on work and his goals almost to the point of blocking everything else out–making him more of a judger than a perceiver. 

tl;dr Sasuke is IS(T/f)J

Shikako is an ambivert, that is, someone who is equally introverted and extroverted. Technically speaking, she is an introvert, in that she does get emotionally drained if she doesn’t have alone time of some sort to recharge herself. She doesn’t like people intruding into what she considers personal, but she does feel comfortable working in groups and collaborating and she has a wide range of friends–overall she’s slightly more introverted than extroverted. She is heavily intuitive when it comes to information processing–it could be argued that sort of knowing the future is cheating, but she uses that more as the bigger picture and only uses facts and figures to confirm as necessary.

In the Myers-Briggs definition, Shikako is more Thinking than Feeling, due to her practical and task-oriented nature. While she is adept at emotions, her own and others’, that in itself is more of a tool and definitely a lower priority than accomplishing her goals. Her judging vs perceiving type is slightly skewed when you consider, again, that she sort of knows the future. While on the outside it would seem like she’s a judger–making plans and working constantly to improve herself–she is more of a perceiver. Perceivers, as previously mentioned, do like to stay flexible and stay open to new information to better make decisions later. They work best with approaching deadlines and know to mix work and play so as not to burn themselves out–as someone who has lived her entire life as a series of incoming Big Bads–that she minimized her world changing, allowed herself a semblance of a childhood, and made sure to enjoy herself occasionally, shows how much more of a perceiver than a judger she is. 

tl;dr Shikako is (I/e=A)NTP

Having already gone through the binaries in detail, I don’t think I need to explain why Kakashi is an introvert, a sensor, and a thinker. He is very much so like Sasuke in that–unsurprising, considering how frequently parallels are drawn between the two especially by Kakashi himself. As for the perceiving vs judging, well, I do think he is inherently a perceiver (simply put, he would rather observe than act, respond than instigate) but his training as a shinobi (and as the jounin in charge of the team/ex-ANBU captain) he does have to be a judger sometimes. He has to make decisions and act on them quickly and stick to the mission parameters–all of the chaos in Team Seven’s missions is in spite of what Kakashi decides and tries to do. It’s a bit of a toss up, really.

tl;dr Kakashi is IST(P/j)

The Keirsey Temperaments (also here)

The Keirsey Temperaments are somewhat related to Myers-Briggs, in that it groups the sixteen M-B types into four temperaments as follows: _S_J’s are Guardians, _S_P’s are Artisans, _NF_’s are Idealists, and _NT_’s are Rationals. The temperaments are then split again twice until, essentially, every Myers-Briggs type has a fancy title. The breakdown of how the temperaments are formed is the Sensing vs iNtuition–or, as Keirsey puts it, Concrete vs Abstract. Then the Concrete are split into organized vs adaptable–with Guardians being the former and Artisans the latter; while the Abstract are split into compassionate vs objective–Idealists the former and Rationals the latter.

From the above Myers-Briggs types for each member of Team Seven, we get Naruto as an Idealist (specifically, the Champion), Sasuke as a Guardian (specifically, the Inspector… though he does match the Protector more, which makes sense since he was in the middle for the Thinking/feeling spectrum), Shikako as a Rational (specifically, the Architect), and Kakashi as an Artisan (specifically, the Crafter). [For the specific titles, you can check out the second link provided for Keirsey Temperaments above, they are listed on the top left].

Idealists focus mostly on their hopes and the possibilities for the future. They act in good conscience, and try to reach their goals without breaking their personal code of ethics.

Guardians focus mostly on their duties and responsibilities. They act for the best of what is theirs to take care of, and try to meet the expectations and standards of society.

Rationals focus mostly on their problems and coming up with solutions to them. They act pragmatically, achieving their objectives as efficiently as possible, even ignoring rules and others if need be.

Artisans focus mostly on what is present, what they can get and what they can do. They act however is needed in order to get a quick and effective payoff, even if they have to bend the law to do so.

That sounds about right for Naruto, Sasuke, Shikako, and Kakashi respectively, doesn’t it?

Hogwarts Houses (yeah, that’s right, I went there)

For some reason, Hogwarts House sorting is really subjective, so this more than any other section is my opinion. I don’t actually believe that every group of four must be sorted into each House, but if they had to then this is how I think it would go:

Naruto is the most Gryffindor that has ever Gryffindor-ed that I’m surprised he isn’t an actual lion. His courage, his idealism, his recklessness, even his prankster sensibilities? Total Gryffindor.

Shikako, especially after we’ve been so thoroughly reminded in Chapter 105, is Slytherin. A very conscientious one, but still Slytherin. She’s cunning, resourceful, pragmatic, and if you consider her ambition is to “survive Akatsuki and Pein and Madara” then, yes, she is very ambitious.

I personally have a soft spot for the rabid-badger Hufflepuff idea–that is, a Hufflepuff who isn’t a total pushover congenial, but is fiercely loyal and hard-working and determined to the point where it’s like having a rabid badger on a leash. And, well, DoS Sasuke really does fit the bill for that (not canon Sasuke–who has been so broken and twisted and consumed by anger and vengeance that he wouldn’t know loyalty if it wore bright orange and yelled about friendship in front of him). He is undeniably hard-working and determined, training just as hard as Naruto to become stronger, and he is so loyal to his team–jumping in front of Naruto during Wave arc, trusting what Shikako says even when she can’t tell him everything. (A moment of silence for pre-Curse Seal canon Sasuke, who could have and should have been like DoS Sasuke.)

Which leaves Kakashi with Ravenclaw. Not that I’m just assigning the leftovers for last, because I do actually think Kakashi fits Ravenclaw best. If not that, then probably also Hufflepuff, buuuut… well. Like I said, this section is presuming that a group of four must be sorted into each House. Anyway, he is intelligent, but he’s also… hm… not curious, necessarily, but he needs to know what is going on. It’s hard to tell from an outsider point of view since he is so seemingly apathetic, but that has more to do with him being able to observe while looking like he’s ignoring people. He’s known for having a ridiculous lexicon of jutsu and creating his own. Shikako is similar, but where she accumulates knowledge for power, he just knows stuff because it’s cool or interesting.

*(Sometimes I also do Avatar Elements–Air, Water, Earth, Fire–but I thought that would be a little confusing considering there are elemental affinities in the Naruto world. And, anyway, I usually do it as more of a “what if these character were in an Avatar AU fic” but since this is an analysis of characters already in a fic that would be too much)

D&D Alignment

This gives the least insight to their personalities, but it does help with behaviors so if you want to write recursive DoS fanfic this may help out. Mostly I just really find D&D Alignment fun to talk about.

D&D Alignment is a categorization of the ethical and moral perspectives of the characters. There are two axes which combine to create nine alignments in total. It looks like this:

Lawful Good             Neutral Good          Chaotic Good
                                             |
Lawful Neutral ——- True Neutral ——- Chaotic Neutral
                                             |
Lawful Evil                  Neutral Evil               Chaotic Evil

The X-axis is Lawful vs Chaotic, and the Y-axis is Good vs Evil. Self-explanatory.

Naruto is undoubtedly Chaotic Good–he doesn’t care for the system as it is now, it’s why he’s so effective as a Hero because he’s going to change the violent world of shinobi into something that can sustain peace. 

Shikako is Chaotic Neutral–well, she self-identifies as chaotic. Her lawful leaning is mostly because she knows if she steps too far out of line Danzo will be there–because while she does want to defeat the bad guys, that’s more of a side-effect of making sure everyone she cares about is strong enough to survive. The world saving is just a bonus to her.

Sasuke is True Neutral–like Shikako, his motivations are fairly self-serving but they’re not actively harming anyone who isn’t identified as evil. And while he’s way less chaotic than his teammates, he’s still a part of team trouble–rules are more like suggestions than orders.

Kakashi is Neutral Good, edging into True Neutral–at heart, he does want to do good but he doesn’t really know what that is except for “what would Obito/Minato-sensei/Rin/Kushina do?” (I’d rant more, but my Kakashi feels don’t belong in this post). As for lawful vs chaotic, well, it’s been repeatedly mentioned how his status as an elite jounin essentially makes him an exception to the rules. He could follow them–like, no doubt, the other jounin sensei do–but he doesn’t have to so he won’t.

A/N2: Aand that’s all, folks. You can tell I got kind of tired towards the end. If you got this far, then wow. Congrats. Hope you found this enjoyable and/or potentially useful. 

Two Messy Misc. Fusion Fic Brainstorms (2015-10-17)

A couple of very tiny brainstorms, such tiny storms of brains… It’s a feast for zombie ants.

1) HTGAWM x Inception fusion

IIIIIIIIIIII… don’t even know? I’ve just been getting a lot Inception vibes while watching HTGAWM? Like especially the parallels between Cobb with Arthur and and Mal then Annalise with Frank+Bonnie and Sam. And, let’s be real, how much more interesting would Inception have been as a movie if it had been Annalise Keating instead of Dominic Cobb (ugh, all his manpain is like mayo on wonderbread).

Anyway so…

How To Get Away With Inception

It’s not enough to be the first. In this industry? You have to be the best.

And the best is Annalise Keating.

Featuring: Extractor!Annalise, Pointmen!Frank+Bonnie,  Forger!Connor, Chemist!Michaela, Architect!Laurel, Jack-of-all-trades?Wes, and Tourist!Asher. (Tbh, I’m iffy on Frank, Laurel, Wes, and Asher’s roles. I do want Wes to not seemingly have a specialty and so the others think he’s just Annalise’s puppy like in canon, but I also want him to be able to do stuff. OH WHAT IF–)

I dunno. I wouldn’t want it to be a one-to-one copy-paste type of fusion/crossover. But there are definitely some parallels between the two that I think it would be absolutely fascinating to explore HTGAWM through an Inception lens.

Like, maybe in a post-Inception world, dream-sharing becomes more legitimate. There are actual firms created in the defense (and intrusion) of minds. It would make sense for it to begin with lawyers–and surely an ex-lawyer would be a better extractor than an ex-architect?

Anyway, it’s a small practice at first, since really all the Keating Four (at the time, Annalise, Sam, Frank, and Bonnie) focus on is defense. But then… something happens with the Lila Stangard job. Something which leaves the mark brain dead, Sam Keating in a coma, and Annalise with a greater grasp of dream sharing than previously thought possible much less attainable.

And so Annalise supposedly stops working–stops helping the rich people of the world build security for their minds. Because now she’s breaking into them instead, extracting has always been more of a lucrative business than securing.

Except then this broke kid comes along and says he may have a way to fix Sam Keating. He’s seen something similar, but not quite. Instead of Lila and Sam, it’s Rudy and Rebecca. And, yes, that broke kid is Wes.

So Tourist!Wes into the mind of Rebecca who may have the key to figuring out how to fix Sam? Ugh, I dunno. Intricate plots are not my wheelhouse.

2) HPxDescendants fusion

Because I received this anonymous ask, and it sort of got me thinking on what I would do in my own HPxDescendants crossover. I’m not particularly motivated to do this one–Once Then Always is much higher on my list–but I figured I ought to type it out than let it stagnate in my head. And it’s not that much anyway:

In line with anonymous’ Harry is raised in Auradon… I was actually thinking it might be interesting if instead of taking Carlos’ place, Harry takes Jane’s or, maybe, is raised alongside Jane as her brother. Like… where best to hide a magical baby than with the baby of one of the most magical beings in Auradon.

But I guess the fic would be a lot about how Harry has been doing accidental magic since he was young and how that twists Jane’s self-esteem because her brother has magic but she (supposedly) doesn’t. But, tbh, I don’t care that much about Jane to the point of writing a Jane-centric HP-fusion fic.

And I guess there could be some interesting conflict/drama about how Harry’s eye color is worryingly similar to a certain evil fairy’s. And so maybe the story is about how people think that there is a good and evil fairy born to every generation then–until Harry’s true origin is revealed–the evil fairy is assumed to be Harry (when in fact it is Mal). I dunno.

I’d go about connecting the two world through magic lore, but I don’t know enough/don’t care enough to create one interesting enough to sustain a fusion fic.

Like I said. Very messy.

Fake Fic Summaries 7/?, the Check, Please! edition (2015-10-10)

itsybittle:

jacksgreysays:

A/N1: @omgcheckplease and it’s fandom are so freaking cute and I just can’t, ugh.

So here are three plot bunnies which I would kind of like to see, but don’t have a fully formed idea nor the ability to do them justice. If anyone would like to adopt them, go for it (and I would totally love to beta/brainstorm with you).

~

1) Untitled “High Fantasy”* AU

In which the son of the Elf King has slain trolls and dragons, but fumbles in the face of a tiny creature known only as a hobbit.

Basically, the Canadians are elves, and the further south you go the shorter the races get. Therefore, Jack and Ransom are Elves; Holster, Shitty, and Nursey are Human; Lardo and Dex are dwarves; and Bitty is a hobbit. I’m unsure whether or not Chowder should be a dwarf or human…

Um, but, basically… I had some very strong Bagginshield feelings even before reading CP and it certainly didn’t get any weaker after. But since one of my guilty pleasures about Jack and Bitty’s relationship is their ludicrous height difference, I figured Jack ought to be an elf instead of a dwarf.

Also, since Jack was canonically an ugly baby/chubby kid/awkward teenager, it’s super hilarious if he’s an elf who are usually characterized by their ethereal beauty.

I don’t really have a plot in mind, though, just the idea of throwing the Haus (+Frogs) into the “high fantasy” setting and letting hilarious cultural misunderstandings get in the way of an elf/hobbit relationship. I love cultural misunderstandings as a romantic comedy trope.

*[“High Fantasy” is pretty much Lord of the Rings without specifically being Tolkien’s world–for example, an entirely, unrelated world with magic and such and a separate set of universal rules. Uh, in contrast there is “low fantasy” which would be Harry Potter–in that there is magic set in the ‘real’ world; so there are extra rules but those are on top of what already exist. Arguably a high fantasy world could be completely underwater and instead of light/visual cues people use telepathy and sonar. Whereas, if there happened to be a story in which a “normal” person met a mermaid who lives at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean and uses telepathy and sonar, that would be low fantasy.]

2) In Which Bitty Is A Ghost

Or, rather, in which Bitty cannot be heard or seen by anyone alive, nor can he touch anything. How is he supposed to bake during this time of crisis?

Featuring: a disturbing lack of hockey or pies, Jenny and Mandy the sorority Haus ghosts, and Jack Zimmermann’s butt being better at emoting than him.

Never fear, Bitty is not actually dead. He’s just in a coma. And his consciousness is for some reason stuck in the Haus (or wherever Jack is, but Bitty doesn’t want to distract him from his first year in the NHL… even if Jack is the only one to sort of perceive him).

Uh, I just had some world-building details in mind… like, the reason why Jenny and Mandy hang around Ransom so much (besides him being very good looking) is because he kind of gives off an aura which strengthens them. Enough to write in a steamy mirror, anyway.

And the two of them are very helpful with teaching Bitty how to be a ghost. Not so much how to get him to stop being a ghost.

Now, I’m not saying true love’s kiss is the answer, but I don’t know what else it might be.

3) Untitled… I don’t even know… Celebrity!CanonDivergence!AU

I have no summary or title for this particular fake fic, just a brainstorm. So here:

It’s a canon divergence AU in which Jack doesn’t step up his wooing of Bitty, because he doesn’t think he can handle the pressure of being the first out NHL player.

So, probably, a few years pass. Bitty also graduates with a major in American Studies / Food Anthropology / something that allows him to essentially do his vlogs professionally.

Now, whether that means he becomes one of those youtube famous vloggers that live off subscriptions and views, or if Food Network Channel picks him up as the next Food Network Star (or if one leads to the other…) would be up to whoever writes this. But, basically, Bitty becomes famous in his own right in the specific niche of vlog/baking. Just like how the Zimmermann name is also famous in the specific niche of hockey.

Aaaand I guess there’s some kind of convention–maybe VidCon maybe the New York City Wine & Food Festival–in which Eric R Bittle, star of Bitty’s Bites, is holding a panel where he bakes and answers questions. One question is “Have you met any other celebrities?” And… well… sure there are the other Food Network stars (he and Duff Goldman have the strangest friendship/rivalry. Shhh, this is an AU in which Ace of Cakes wasn’t cancelled, don’t harsh my vibe) but those are people he works with and he’s pretty humble so he doesn’t consider himself a celebrity. But you know what, he was once teammates/housemates/friends with Jack Zimmermann, NHL star… so Bitty talks about that.

By which I mean, rhapsodizes about his Samwell years the rest of his panel time and no one really has the heart to stop him because he was so obviously enamored by this… hockey guy… that it’s absolutely fascinating to listen to.

And, well, Bitty is openly gay. So when, at the end, he punctuates that he used to have such a huge crush on Jack, well, his fans go wild. And there’s not much overlap between Bitty’s fans and hockey fans, but there is a little. Just enough that people begin speculating about Jack to the point that, eventually, when Jack is doing a post-game interview, expecting some of the normal questions, out of the blue someone asks about Eric Bittle. Jack hasn’t thought about Bitty in YEARS. So he just kind of… contacts Bitty and is like… wanna get coffee sometime?

They slowly fall back in love. While also being very famous people in very different spheres. And Bitty learns that he is allowed to be selfish sometimes. And Jack musters up the courage to come out (because it’s been a few years, his place on the team is secure, he doesn’t want hockey to be the only thing in his life).

Happy Ending, etc. etc. Bitty goes to Jack’s games, Jack probably makes cameos in Bitty’s Bites–mostly just standing around on screen like a giant and chirping at his boyfriend. Super cute stuff. etc. etc.

spinoff of the first idea: all the guys playing one of those role playing games for reasons, with those races as their characters and Bitty and Jack keep trying to do sidequests together, even when they are not allowed or is remotely relevant to the game, and the dice loves Bitty so everybody keeps getting sidetracked by Bitty and Jack going on a visits to their homes to smooth out cultural misunderstandings

Hahahaha! Bitty WOULD be one of those people who always get the perfect roll of the dice or the right card. Lardo would totally be Lady Who Is Also A Knight (™) with Shitty being Willowy Poet (Not)Boyfriend. And I imagine Ransom and Holster’s Hockey Shit powerpoints would be similarly hilarious as D&D Shit powerpoints.

Dex would probably despair at how shoddy Nursey’s character sheet is (you can’t just put all of your points into charisma!), and Chowder would probably attempt to be a shark version of Sir Bearington (™).

1/? HP!anon. Sorry about the confusion, but asks have a word limit. My thinking was that Cruellla grabbed Harry in a plot to remain in England should she be caught. If she is living outside of their kingdom AND has a baby, then surely the good people of Auradon wouldn’t force to the isle. Rather then wait 9 months, she just grabbed the baby on the doorstep. When that ended up not working, Cruella didn’t have a reason for a child and so Carlos/Harry is treated more like a servant then a Heir.

2/3 But your idea for a dead Carlos contributing to Cruella’s Crazy was really good to, and now I’m not sure what I want to do with that. But for the tournament itself, I’m not sure if i want to stick with Dragon Hall causing mayhem as the 4th school, or play with the timelines and have Carlos taken while in Auradon instead. My reason for no one finding him was the fairy godmothers barrier. So for DH either the goblet ceremony happens coincidentally as Carlos makes his hole in the barrier…
3/3 and Carlos’ only ‘Friend’ is Evie. Or it’s after the book, before the movie and the Goblet completely shatters the barrier and releases all the Villains to grab it’s Champion. On the otherhand Auradon as the 4th school, the villains aren’t released to complete mayhem and destruction, but King Beast still gets to deal with keeping a foreign countries SAVIOR in horrible conditions on the isle of the lost. and Malificent can stay as the end of the Fic big bad.

I’m all for the more disturbing and heart-wrenching option, so feel free to use the dead Carlos idea if you want.

Hm… I mean, if this Carlos is in fact Harry (and there’s no Carlos to hold Harry’s place) then I would think that Dumbledore and co. have been looking for Harry for years now. In which case, you don’t even really have to stick to the Goblet of Fire timeline–unless that tournament is specifically what you want to do. But, hm, I never really thought the Goblet was all that powerful? Like, sure supposedly it compels Harry to compete but that was only stated not actually proven? But, then again, this is not a post about the plot holes of the HP series and so we could take it as fact.

Anyway, at most, I think the Goblet would only be able to compel Harry/Carlos to compete, not shatter the barrier around the Isle (because how would an age barrier be formed around the goblet if that was one of its powers?). So, again, your timing is what matters most–if you do decide to have it when the gang is already in Auradon then I suppose you can also decide whether or not there is an Auradon Prep delegation and who would be on it. Then you would have a mix of villain kids and hero kids if you want.

As for diplomacy, at this point Ben is King not the Beast so he would have to be the one to deal with the political fallout of having the UK’s Chosen One living on the Isle of the Lost. Then again… I mean, they have Azkaban, so it’s not like they’re unfamiliar with the idea of island prisons. And, in comparison to a dementor-ridden 24/7 torture prison, Harry living in Auradon’s equivalent of a ghetto isn’t so bad? Like, actually, considering no one cared about the abuse he suffered under the Dursleys I don’t think people would care all that much of his poor living standards on the Isle.

As for big bads, well, since this is a crossover fic, you may want to consider having the big bads also crossover. That is, have Voldemort involved. Especially since this is GoF year which is when Voldemort returns, it could very well be that the villains take notice of this. I mean, maybe not necessarily work together–because teamwork, boo, but also it’s not like Maleficent has anything against Harry/Carlos in particular.

ACTUALLY maybe even have the big bads turn against each other. Obviously, Maleficent’s main goals are to get free of the barrier and get revenge on Auradon. Voldemort’s is to kill Harry/Carlos. Depending on how you have them act on their motivations you could put them at cross-purposes or have them cooperate. Or even a little of both.

Sorry I can’t really be of more help. I realize some of it is due to an inefficient messaging system which makes discussing a fic difficult, but my main concern is that there are so many plot points you have to juggle that the story collapses under it’s own weight. Because if you do wait for this to happen when the Lost kids are in Auradon already then you have so many factions with contradicting goals. You have the villains, the villain kids, Auradon, the Light side, and then Voldemort. If you do pre-Auradon, then the villain kids are not as separate from the villains, and so the factions are just Isle of the Lost, Light side, Voldemort. Much easier to handle and easier to keep the plot contained.  

So I have a fic I was trying to write, and I was wondering what you think of it. In an effort to evade being sent to the Isle of the Lost, Cruella de Vill escaped to England. Eventually recaptured, she brought back with her a child with black hair, green eyes, and a strange scar on his forehead. 13 years later, the renamed Carlos de Vill is pulled away from Auradon by the power of an ancient Goblet to compete in an archaic tournament. Magic may be real, but that does’t mean he has it…right?

It’s an interesting idea for sure. The Harry Potter series (or at least the British magical world presented in it) is insular enough that many other shows/movies/books aren’t necessarily incompatible. There are some points where I’m wondering what exactly you’re implying–because there are multiple ways to interpret this.

Like, for example, is this a switched identity thing–in which both Carlos and Harry exist but for some reason, Cruella switched her baby for the Potters’ baby? Or is this a story in which Carlos does not exist, but Cruella somehow obtains Harry and then names him Carlos because she would have named any child she raised Carlos? Like… is the Carlos we see in Descendants secretly Harry Potter? And only when the Goblet of Fire calls upon his “real name” does he realize it… And so is there then a “Harry Potter” living and learning in Hogwarts that, due to actually being Carlos de Vil, realizes his entire life has been a lie?

I guess what I’m saying is that I’m not entirely sure what kind of Carlos-is-Harry method you want to use for this story so I can’t really brainstorm more on what you’ve given me…

I suppose I wonder how Cruella got Harry (either instead of, or in exchange for her own son). Like, is she blood related to Lily (and Petunia)? Or did she just see this green-eyed baby and want it for herself–but, why?–or did she have Carlos and try to–OH MY GOD.

Okay. I just thought of something potentially horrific but possibly in character for the Descendants’ version of Cruella de Vil. Like… what if she did have Carlos (canon Carlos, that is) but he died as a baby. For some reason. Either her own neglect or he just wasn’t a very healthy baby. But he dies. And we’ve seen how attached she is to that fake stuffed dog so what if… she just lost her baby. And she sees this abandoned baby just, you know, lying there. And she takes it. Because that means her baby’s not really dead, see, he’s right here.

Um… like I said… I have no idea which route you want to take for that so everything with a grain of salt.

But, okay, after that… I guess then I would have to wonder about the timing of things. Since Goblet of Fire happens in the year right after Harry turns fourteen… wouldn’t this happen before the events of the Descendants movie? In which case, Carlos aka Harry isn’t enrolled in Auradon Prep–he’s a student of Dragon Hall. And if he’s, as in GoF canon, a representative of a fourth school then that means you can bring in other Dragon Hall students to Hogwarts for the tournament. Such as Mal, Evie, Jay, and other of the more magically inclined villain kids.

It would derail the Descendants movie entirely but… it could be interesting to play around with. I mean, as I’ve said before, I haven’t read the book so I don’t know much about non-movie canon for the Descendants world, but if you can make it work that more power to you. And nothing is to stop you from having the events of Descendants (that is, Ben inviting the four Lost kids to Auradon Prep) from still happening after the GoF x Isle of the Lost year.

Some advice: I’d say watch out for spreading yourself too thin, though, and make sure you have a good handle on your character voices. Especially Carlos-Harry. He’s going to be different than either canon!Carlos or canon!Harry, but he has to be similar enough to both that you can still get the feeling of both of them.

And, make sure Cruella’s motivations make sense. In a way, SHE’s the instigator of your fic idea, so even if her reasoning isn’t exactly rational (because emotions aren’t always rational) it should adhere to some kind of internal logic.

It’s definitely an interesting idea, with a lot of intricate plotting to work through, but not entirely undoable. If you have your heart set on it then go for it! 😀