Boruto is… I have yet to find his positive traits, is the best way I can put it. With nearly every other next gen character I can find some aspect of them that I like or understand or sympathize with at least a little bit, but Boruto is basically like… self-absorbed privileged upper class cishet white guy who feels entitled to everything but doesn’t understand responsibility or respect?
Like… even at the end of his story arc he doesn’t really understand how much of a tool he was being? He CHEATED multiple times in an exam witnessed by foreign delegates and against someone who is supposed to be his best friend and yet we’re supposed to root for him? I’m just… wtf.
If he were presented as that douchebag character who learns how much of an asshat he’s been and eventually becomes a better person through ~friendship~ and such then, sure, that would have been great. Fantastic even. I love Jeffrey Winger’s character development in Community from manipulative scumbag to reluctant group leader. I understand, at the very least, why Shawn Spencer from Psych is the way he is and him lying about being a psychic is how he can help people and his character development is great, too.
But there’s none of that for Boruto as far as I can see, and that’s really what he needs, I think. Kishimoto just slapped a hero label on him without backing it up and there’s nothing at all that supports that. He’s just been presented poorly, is all–no surprise–and he’s still new enough to me that I haven’t been able to crack his code. But it’s running in the back of my mind so I can do more Walking Around installments with next gen Team Seven, so hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.
As for Himawari–I don’t know much about her either, but what I do know is that basically, yeah, she’s fantastic. 😀
Did you even bother to watch the movie at all? Yet to find his positive traits? I am sorry but nearly every thing you said about him is completely false and full of ignorance. How is he self-absorbed? This boy misses his father and only wants to him to spend time with his family and he knows his father is super busy. Also, he wants his father to acknowledge him, make him proud and not live under his shadow. If he were what you describe him to be, he wouldn’t even care about his sister nor his mother. And to compare him to traits that Tumblr hates? To compare him with that just because he is the Hokage’s son is completely degrading.
After being found out that he cheated, he learned his lesson, he eventually learned the meaning of responsibility and eventually came to respect his father’s position. He even learned how to respect his friends and learned teamwork with this teammates. This is how much better he became compared to what he was. Kishi didn’t slap the hero label without backing up or presenting it poorly. Sure, it could have been better but it wasn’t poorly.
It is fine if you don’t like him, but I would suggest you watch the movie, again before you judge him or even think about degrading him.
lets not forget he cheated so his father can be proud of him not coz he wants to win actually he didnt care being a ninja at all
beside after cheating he realized working hard is the answer
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But tl;dr: in regards to the cheating aspect specifically, sure Boruto wants attention from his father which is something that he is actually entitled to. But cheating is still wrong no matter the end goal and even if Boruto intended for his actions to make his father proud that doesn’t excuse the fact that he cheated in a fight against someone who is supposed to be his friend. Especially after previously having been caught cheating against the same friend while playing video games after school which is like… the lowest stakes ever and nothing in comparison to an international competition that has serious repercussions in their careers.
And realizing cheating is wrong because it won’t make him stronger is different from realizing cheating is wrong because it’s a dishonorable thing to do. For example, plagiarism is wrong, correct? But someone realizing plagiarizing won’t make them a better writer isn’t what is wrong with plagiarism. Plagiarism is inherently wrong regardless of who is involved or what their motivation behind it is.
Boruto is… I have yet to find his positive traits, is the best way I can put it. With nearly every other next gen character I can find some aspect of them that I like or understand or sympathize with at least a little bit, but Boruto is basically like… self-absorbed privileged upper class cishet white guy who feels entitled to everything but doesn’t understand responsibility or respect?
Like… even at the end of his story arc he doesn’t really understand how much of a tool he was being? He CHEATED multiple times in an exam witnessed by foreign delegates and against someone who is supposed to be his best friend and yet we’re supposed to root for him? I’m just… wtf.
If he were presented as that douchebag character who learns how much of an asshat he’s been and eventually becomes a better person through ~friendship~ and such then, sure, that would have been great. Fantastic even. I love Jeffrey Winger’s character development in Community from manipulative scumbag to reluctant group leader. I understand, at the very least, why Shawn Spencer from Psych is the way he is and him lying about being a psychic is how he can help people and his character development is great, too.
But there’s none of that for Boruto as far as I can see, and that’s really what he needs, I think. Kishimoto just slapped a hero label on him without backing it up and there’s nothing at all that supports that. He’s just been presented poorly, is all–no surprise–and he’s still new enough to me that I haven’t been able to crack his code. But it’s running in the back of my mind so I can do more Walking Around installments with next gen Team Seven, so hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.
As for Himawari–I don’t know much about her either, but what I do know is that basically, yeah, she’s fantastic. 😀
Did you even bother to watch the movie at all? Yet to find his positive traits? I am sorry but nearly every thing you said about him is completely false and full of ignorance. How is he self-absorbed? This boy misses his father and only wants to him to spend time with his family and he knows his father is super busy. Also, he wants his father to acknowledge him, make him proud and not live under his shadow. If he were what you describe him to be, he wouldn’t even care about his sister nor his mother. And to compare him to traits that Tumblr hates? To compare him with that is completely degrading.
After being found out that he cheated, he learned his lesson, he eventually learned the meaning of responsibility and eventually came to respect his father’s position. He even learned how to respect his friends and learned teamwork with this teammates. This is how much better he became compared to what he was. Kishi didn’t slap the hero label without backing up or presenting it poorly. Sure, it could have been better but it wasn’t poorly.
It is fine if you don’t like him, but I would suggest you watch the movie, again before you judge him or even think about degrading him.
I’ll admit my words were hasty and somewhat exaggerated, but they aren’t completely false. Boruto definitely isn’t my cup of tea and I shouldn’t have tagged what essentially boils down to hate in his tag and for that I apologize (that’s bad tumblr etiquette and I’ve removed that tag from that post and I won’t tag it on this post either).
I also know that he does get better at the end of his movie and that, in comparison to the two jerks with a heart of gold that I referenced in the original post he doesn’t have nearly as much content in which to undergo graceful character development even if he did have an author who could/would do such a thing.
I also, also know that suffering isn’t a competition of “mine is worse than yours, thus yours is invalid” and that having an absent father can mess up a kid, especially when said father has actually verbally said that his job is more important than you. That sucks, and it’s awful, and Boruto does deserve to be angry at his dad (although saying Naruto was lucky to have been orphaned is a pretty awful thing to say). But it doesn’t excuse the terrible things he’s done or his attitude towards other people.
Actions speak louder than intent and here’s what I do know: Boruto tore his younger sister’s favorite toy because he didn’t want to take even the chance that he’d end up carrying it for her. He cheated against someone who is supposed to be his friend: first in video games for fun–which is as low stakes as it can get–then once more in an international competition which had pretty high stakes. I interpreted him learning his lesson about cheating more about being sorry he was caught and knowing that cheating doesn’t actually make him stronger, rather than being sorry about the problems inherent in cheating itself–such as cheating being a shitty thing to do and dishonorable–but by that point I was already feeling uncharitable to him, so that’s clearly a matter of personal opinion.
Learning to respect his father and his father’s position–okay, I get it. Like I said, he deserves to be angry at his father and the Hokage position for taking said father away from him, and him eventually learning what that means in a point of view that isn’t abandoned child is good. Learning teamwork with his teammates I also understand–the original Team Seven definitely didn’t fit together nicely at first and it took them a while, too. (Possibly the entire manga if you consider all the bullshit Sasuke put Naruto and Sakura through).
But “learning how to respect his friends” means that he didn’t respect them in the first place–which is pretty clear given the whole cheating problem–and if he didn’t respect his friends before then that makes for a pretty awful friendship. That’s being a barely decent person in terms of his interpersonal relationships. And, okay, he’s a kid, fine. Maybe I’m being too harsh on him. But in your own words him “becoming better compared to how he was” means that he started off worse, yes?
So my description of him was harsh and, given that he’s thirteen and part of a fictional world, can’t really be accurate seeing as how he can’t be “white” and may not know whether he’s “cishet” or not. My bad. But the rest of it? “Self-absorbed privileged upper class guy who feels entitled to everything but doesn’t understand responsibility or respect.” Isn’t that what he is in the beginning of his story?
By the end of his movie, as you’ve said, he does learn responsibility and respect but he started off as a self-absorbed brat. He’s the son of the Hokage and–well, I don’t know if Hinata is Head of the Hyuuga Clan, but she’s definitely a part of the Main family of the biggest/most powerful clan in Konoha–which pretty much fits the privileged and upper class part. And maybe some of the things he wants–like his father’s attention–are things that he’s actually entitled to, but he’s not entitled to a promotion in a competition he cheated in, and he’s not entitled to friends who he is repeatedly horrible to.
I’ll admit: some of it is still overly caustic given that, again, he’s thirteen. I mean, in my defense, this is a world in which thirteen year olds are treated as adults and can join the military. I’ve been scaling things like maturity to match that, but maybe I shouldn’t since this is before puberty fully hits. Then again, fictional world, who the hell knows?
Boruto himself, when he’s older, acknowledges that he was brat when he was younger–and true, a lot of people think that about their younger selves. I myself admit that I was a near sociopathic dick when I was younger, but that doesn’t excuse what I did just because I was young then and realize now the ramifications of my dickishness. I still lost friends I should have treated better and I still ruined relationships with people that deserved more.
Boruto being a jerk when he’s younger is fine. Stories need characters who are jerks. Stories benefit from characters who are jerks. Jerks can be good guys–like I said, jerks with hearts of gold can have good character development and can be good characters. I just don’t think Boruto’s story was enough to pull him from jerk to hero as opposed to jerk who is beginning to learn how to not be a jerk.
From what I’ve seen and what I know, Boruto’s “journey to becoming a hero” is more in line with fighting the big bads and saving the world when I think what he needs and deserves is a hero’s journey more about personal development. He just hasn’t gotten that yet.
Kishimoto has created fantastic characters and a fascinating world, but I think we can both admit that he doesn’t always handle them in the best way. In my opinion, Boruto’s story needed to be handled differently for me to understand him as a hero proper and not just kid-who-can-fight-big-bad-villains-and-eventually-realizes-the-error-of-his-ways. That’s not hero to me, not yet.
The hardest character for me to write besides Kakashi? Hm… of the characters I’ve actually written, I presume you mean…
Surprisingly? Naruto is pretty difficult for me to write. It’s why Quest for the Queen gave me so much trouble (and why I was so surprised to actually finish it). If he were easier for me to write, I’d probably have him way more involved in Down Every Road or, I mean, if I could form a proper headcanon for a Team Seven OT3 I’d probably have a series for that.
It’s hard to get into his headspace. I admire him as a character, but as a person I just can’t relate at all. Shikako and Sasuke I can easily understand–part of what I love about DoS (and the reason why I went on to do the podfic) is that I empathize with Shikako so much. Sasuke is… well… his motivations and reactions adhere to an internal logic that, while not my own, is still realistic.
I have no idea what’s up with Naruto. He’s basically the direct opposite of myself–he forgives easily (instead of holding grudges forever and a day like myself), he’s excited about life (somehow without also being curious about the world), he’s generous and loving and he empathizes with everyone but it’s not tactful or sensitive: he doesn’t understand the consequences of his or other people’s actions. He doesn’t understand that there are some lines that should never be crossed.
And I know some of that is because most Shounen Protagonists are walking talking cliches of HEART and OPTIMISM, but it’s just so… I just can’t do it for some reason.
Like… this is also a part of the reason why I’m reluctant to write Boruto yet. Because my brain already can’t really wrap my head around Naruto, and then a Naruto who ends up with Hinata (I’m not ship bashing, I just honestly don’t understand they had so few interactions? It’s not even like Harry and Ginny where people were discontent with the epilogue definitively making them end up together, I’m like honestly baffled. It’d be like if Harry ended up with… er… which Creevey brother survived? Like… the fraction of “screen time” Hinata got in which she actually interacts with Naruto is probably the same as the Creevey brothers with Harry.)
And then there’s the fact that I’m like 90% sure that the Naruto in next gen canon has depression despite having achieved world peace and his childhood dream. And I’m not saying people can’t be depressed even though they are successful in life. But it just… it’s a very tricky thing to maneuver even though I myself also suffer from depression. There is this huge gap between teenage Naruto and adult Naruto that I can’t quite understand, and given that I already can’t grasp teenaged Naruto’s thought process it’s basically impossible for me to jump to adult Naruto and Boruto as his son from there.
Erm… sorry about that–hope it didn’t sound too much like complaining. Uh, but I can still occasionally catch on some points when it comes to Naruto (it’s more miss than hit, unfortunately) whereas Kakashi is meant to be opaque and it’s like… I can’t crack open his mystery. That’s who he is. He’s a carefully crafted construct of heartbreak and coping mechanisms and I just cannot do that to him.
I can get his external voice (like what he’d say to other characters), which is why it’s super fun to have Team Seven react to the occasional cameo, but his internal voice is just ??????
I also sometimes have trouble with Gaara… and also Temari. But that’s mostly because in comparison, Kankurou is waaaaaaay easier and my brain is just like–if you’re going to write about one of the sand siblings, why not Kankurou? He’s great.
And I’m usually like: sure, brain, you’re the boss. Let’s totally give Kankurou more lines than Gaara in the ShikakoxGaara series, that makes total sense.
I always figured–especially given the existence of the Gelel Empire–that chakra overlayed the previous magic-like system instead of introducing a brand new thing entirely, and that natural chakra was either a thing that you could or couldn’t use. Like you can’t just be taught and train in it if you don’t have the initial ability.
Like… I guess the easiest way to explain would be… I’ve read a couple of HPxNaruto crossovers and to mash up the terminology: Everyone, even Muggles, have chakra but the ability to use NATURAL chakra is for those who would be considered witches/wizards in the HP world. It’s just something you’re born with?
The various clans/blood limits (except for Juugo’s whose blood limit involves natural chakra) are independent of use natural chakra. It’s why not just anyone and their pet dog can become a Sage? Like… why are Orochimaru and Jiraiya sages, but Tsunade isn’t? I can’t really see any of the clans keeping their Sage knowledge to themselves if it is a matter of bloodline.
The Gelel thing is probably… the reason why so many of the Gelel fighters were surprised that the people of the Elemental Nations were putting up a decent defense is that chakra didn’t exist then. So before the Sage of Six Paths, the shinobi abilities would have been limited to the “magic-users” who are (if we’re still using HP standards) a significantly smaller part of the population.
Shikako being able to hear/activate the Gelel stone is because she’s the equivalent of a muggleborn when it comes to natural chakra (or maybe a half-blood? I dunno about Yoshino) whereas if Shikamaru touched it, it wouldn’t have done anything. It would’ve also done something if Naruto had touched it (I’m unsure if the Uzumaki vitality was something like a more stable version of Juugo’s clan’s blood limit, which would make Tsunade a squib in that case).
But then again, aren’t most of the Konoha bloodlines descended from the Sage of Six Paths anyway? Maybe after so many generations they’ve cultivated a blood limit, but lost the ability to use natural chakra and are all borderline squibs?
Then, since Shikako is heading to the Fire Temple to learn how to use natural chakra, the temple is a bit like Hogwarts meets Jedi Order? They probably don’t have jurisdiction in Konoha itself (which is why Team Seven flew under the radar) but maybe the monks travel around and gather possible sages to train them properly?
But in all seriousness, anon, if I’m going to be frank, it took me a while to understand your ask in a way that didn’t make me cringe or side-eye it. I know there was no offense meant and that you’re sincerely curious about why Shikako and Gaara don’t have biological children in my weird DoS next gen spinoff, but something about the word choice or maybe just the subconscious assumption beneath the ask itself just kind of… I’ll do my best to answer you, but please keep in mind that my first reaction to this ask wasn’t exactly positive and I had to step away for a while before I could answer.
Okay so let’s go:
Yes, in the Walking Around ‘verse aka the Sakako Uchiha ‘verse, genetically-canon!Sarada does still exist. Sakura wanted a child, but is romantically involved with Ino (who is also romantically involved with Sai). While Sakura could have asked Sai to be sperm donor for her child, Konoha is already trying to establish an Uchiha repopulation program and Sakura, being part of the Medic Corps (and possibly in charge of the program?) would no doubt know of it. So the efficient thing was for Sakura to be a surrogate so she could both have a child and contribute to the Uchiha repopulation. Or perhaps “surrogate” is the wrong word choice since Sarada is HER child that just happens to be half Sasuke’s genes and a member of the fledgling Uchiha clan 2.0
Sakako might or might not be an artificially inseminated baby. My interpretation of Sasuke is demi-romantic bisexual, and Shikako as demi/bi-romantic demi/asexual. So the demi part for Shikako’s sexuality is a little up in the air. (And anyway, it’s not as if ace people can’t have or enjoy sex, they just don’t actively feel sexual desire). But the point is, Sakako’s existence isn’t as premeditated as Sarada’s is–Sakura PLANNED to have a child, and DECIDED to be part of the Uchiha repopulation program. SAKURA was the active party between her and Sasuke in Sarada’s origin.
In contrast, I’m not entirely sure if Sakako is “officially” part of the Uchiha repopulation program so much as she is someone who just happens to be born Uchiha. If that makes any sense. Whether Sakako is the result of a night of passion, or Shikako acknowledging that Sasuke wants biological children with her and agreeing to bear A child for him, it was mostly SASUKE who wanted Sakako to exist.
Keep in mind, if all five of Shikadai’s cousins exist like in Our Share of the World, then Team Seven (+friends) have already collectively raised Kareru to approximately Academy age. Maybe, parenting Kareru made Sasuke baby-crazed, and seeing as how it was Shikako and Naruto who helped him with this first child, he turned to them (who are his “one and done + exception” anyway) for another child. Hence Sakako’s existence, even if it’s not specifically the Uchiha repopulation program.
In summary, Sarada is Sakura’s child who just happens to be part of the Uchiha repopulation program, Sakako is Sasuke’s child with Shikako.
Now what’s stopping Shikako from being a surrogate for Gaara? Nothing.
Nothing’s stopping them from having biological children through sexual intercourse, either (even if they were both asexual–again, asexual people can have and even enjoy sex–it’s just that they don’t feel the desire for sex)
It’s not that Shikako thinks Gaara would be a bad father or that she thinks any potential kid would inherit his bijuu-related madness; it’s not that she loves Sasuke more than she does Gaara, either. She already has children with Gaara. Three of them, in fact. They don’t need to be biologically related to her for her to be their Mother. (This is what Gaara, in the deepest recesses of his mind, fears. But it’s doubt brought along by his shaky self-esteem and knowledge that Sasuke low-key resents him, and thus not true at all).
This isn’t about Sasuke not being okay with it or about Sasuke being a hypocrite or about Sasuke not giving her permission or whatever. This isn’t about Sasuke at all. Shikako just doesn’t want another child–she already has five children. (FIVE CHILDREN IS A LOT, OKAY. That’s more than a standard shinobi team. (Though I should say that her not wanting more children doesn’t mean that she wouldn’t totally step up and love and parent any additional kids that come along, but she doesn’t actively want to get more children. She’s content with the number she has.))
If I had to put motivations behind it… Gaara just wants family–he doesn’t want more clan, doesn’t want to pass on his blood limit–actually, Gaara just wants love? And, obviously, family helps with that. But biological children aren’t more valid as family, they aren’t somehow intrinsically more lovable than adopted children.
In contrast, Sasuke “wants to revive his clan.” That’s specifically the Uchiha clan with the Sharingan bloodline. If he just wanted (sorry to be crass here) bodies in houses, he’d just go to an orphanage and adopt all the children and make them Uchiha. But the premise of the particular spinoff world that Walking Around ‘verse is in has an Uchiha repopulation program specifically for the Sharingan.
Different motivations, so different goals, so different solutions, so different family structures.
I think Shikako doesn’t want biological children. Or rather, she doesn’t have a preference for biological children over adopted children. A close enough version of her genes are going to be passed down to the next generation anyway via Shikamaru’s child(ren) and a slightly distant but still related version of her genes comprise an entire clan. Her bloodline is fine–there’s no endangered blood limit attached to it, and so there’s no necessity for her to have biological children. To be somewhat crass again, she’s not a baby-making machine (and she’s especially not going to be one for the Suna Council.)
Let’s see… as a more concrete example: you might have noticed in Walking Around (Sharing the World) that bit about the empty room. The one that both Sasuke and Shikako were keeping silent on the matter. The way I see it, that room can be filled in different ways. If Sasuke found an Uchiha baby in a sealing scroll and decided to adopt it Shikako would agree to be this baby’s Mum.
Or, if someone volunteered to be a surrogate for the Uchiha repopulation program but didn’t actually want to raise the baby (maybe they’re a kunoichi who had been injured and would need to take a year off and decided, hey, why not get paid to be pregnant since she’s not going to be able to do missions anyway), Shikako would agree to be this baby’s Mum. Or, hell, if Sasuke decided to adopt any kid and raise that kid as Sakako’s sibling–Uchiha genes or not–Shikako would totally be okay with being that kid’s Mum, too. But if Sasuke asked for another biological kid from Shikako? … I don’t think she’d say yes.
I mean, there’s in vitro… like if Shikako donated some eggs and Sasuke donated sperm and then the zygote was implanted into some other woman. But at that point… it’d be better for the Uchiha repopulation program and Sasuke’s dream to revive the Uchiha clan if that other woman just… became one of the mothers in the program. Especially so that, if a generation or two down the line, the plan is to have the descendants reproduce with each other. Far enough that their relation to Sasuke isn’t too recent and possibly resulting in genetic problems due to inbreeding, but not so diluted that the Sharingan is lost. If there are two Shikasuke kids then their descendants are invalid to reproduce with each other without additional generations separating them.
But that’s getting away from the heart of the matter which is… I hope I answered your questions?
If you’d like to write about biological Shikaara kids, don’t let me stop you. The reason why I didn’t was because I found the NGSS while researching and it just felt right to me that the NGSS are adopted–in canon or DoS future–and in a Shikaara world, Shikako is an active enough parent that they do acknowledge her as Mother (I dunno if anyone noticed, but I figure it’s a regional dialect thing that people in Suna use Mother/Father and people in Konoha use Mum and Dad).
Our interpretations of the characters are different, so our predictions for their future will probably be different. I mean, I can even interpret the characters differently leading to different predictions–I can see a possible future where Shikako and Kiba end up together and have no children but are wildly and hilariously happy together. I can see a possible future where Shikako and Neji end up together and take on the fucked up system of the Hyuuga Main vs Branch families with fuinjutsu and REVOLUTION. I can see a possible future where Shikako doesn’t end up with anyone and is happy with her life and revels in her freedom.
Biological Shikaara children can definitely exist in some possible future; but in the particular future that I’ve somehow developed in the Walking Around/Sakako ‘verse there aren’t any.
Probably? He definitely wants them to be connected to each other by more than blood–and he does teach all of them Grand Fireball when they turn seven, probably, but given that actual clan status (as the Nara go, anyway) involve things like clan tax and land/etc and there’s only one adult and maybe six kids at most they’re not really capable of being a clan yet. Eventually? But not yet.
Especially since they all live in different households raised by different people. Not sure if Sasuke arranges meetings with the kids. If so, it’s definitely infrequent.
Sakako is probably the oldest (maaaybe Sarada is older?) and so she and Sasuke get to make up the new Uchiha clan traditions. More like coming of age sort of things–seventh birthday, becoming a genin, etc etc. Maybe they get to learn Sasuke’s Fire variant of the chidori at age twelve?
Since the Uchiha matriarch-to-be is half Nara, it’s very possible that the fledgling Uchiha clan “officially” becomes an ally of the Akimichi-Nara-Yamanaka alliance and so there’s an exchange of benefits there. The new Uchiha clan get their ears pierced at becoming chuunin (maybe genin, too, like the A-N-Y clans, but definitely chuunin).
I was reading tumblr backlog a few hours ago, saw this ask, and immediately had thoughts. I spent a few hours writing, as this grew into a longer bunch of words than I expected, because I really like the NGSS as you’ve described them, and I like thinking about this version of the world. Only now, in the last step before posting, did I see some of your other asks, and I realized that I probably gave Sasuke the benefit of the doubt when I really shouldn’t have in my first read of Walking Around (Sharing the World). So, I guess this is speculation about a less-posessive-to-an-unhealthy-level Sasuke and what his family might look like: (under a cut, for length)
Though, just to let you know, Sasuke definitely did deserve the benefit of the doubt in Walking Around (Sharing the World). The Sasuke in WA(StW) is specifically through the lens of Sakako thinking about her parents’ relationship AND the NGSS. That kind of mixed up together so that the Sasuke you see in WA(StW) is him in his most jealous/possessive/bitter state.
Except for the part with trip to Sora-ku that didn’t have dialogue because that was meant to show how Shikako and Sasuke still have a good relationship and rapport, more so when he doesn’t have to even consider the NGSS/Gaara. Sasuke in Walking Around (Like Regular People) is the norm, Sasuke in WA(StW) is not.
But that being said, I super agree with everything you’ve said here. He’s definitely going to do more research into his clan–especially after the whole Danzo/attempted coup thing comes out because it’s a very complicated situation. No, they didn’t deserve to be killed and Danzo’s a rat bastard for having gotten away with it and his creepy Sharingan fetish, but it wasn’t the perfect clan that he remembered. Actually, he didn’t even remember it as all that perfect considering Fugaku was a shitty dad and Mikoto was far too passive with that, given that headcanon/fandom!Mikoto would not have put up with that bullshit.
But still. Sasuke, with his team, do go through as much of the Uchiha clan lands/holdings/ruins/libraries together and some of the traditions he keeps, others he discards. I think it’d be interesting if he and Tsunade bond somehow as the last of their clans and Team Seven also go through Senju clan stuff for her and incorporate that into the new Uchiha clan or the new Uzumaki clan. Yes, they also go to Uzushio. (I’m not sure about Namikaze? Is it a canon thing or a fandom thing, but I always though Minato was civilian stock orphan or something…)
The way I figure, clans are probably like companies? With the big clans being huge conglomerates and the smaller ones being more like small businesses. Especially when it comes to the Akimichi-Nara-Yamanaka who probably give each other discounts on things and have internal departments that seamlessly work together. Take the Nara medicine for the Akimichi food pills/cure, no doubt created from carefully cultivated plants from the Yamanaka.
Also, how the Nara have a separate R&D from the village’s. Shikako’s seals make the clan money because she develops them/gets them approved through the Nara R&D as opposed to going to the village’s R&D. TenTen gets a percentage of it even though she’s not a Nara because she basically is an independent contractor.
I’m certain the Akimichi own restaurants in the village and pretty sure that they own restaurants in other cities/towns. The Uchiha probably own most if not all of Sora-ku and no doubt other properties in Land of Fire. They’re a Noble Clan, after all, and not even the Senju were a Noble Clan (even though three out of seven of the Hokage were Senju).
Probably the burgeoning Uchiha clan 2.0 doesn’t have much to offer to the A-N-Y alliance yet besides whatever money became Sasuke’s as sole legal heir to the clan, but they probably will one day and the A-N-Y alliance can be investors or something, if we continue with the company metaphor.
[It’s probably why the Hyuuga Clan can get away with ACTUAL SLAVERY because not only are they a Noble Clan, but they’re probably ridiculously wealthy (alongside being Konoha’s most powerful bloodline after the Sharingan became endangered). And in the real world, the biggest/richest companies are always the ones that can get away with the worst shit]
The Sasuke of DoS hasn’t completely fucked up his life–he still has the same hardships, but instead of shooting himself in the foot and making it worse, he’s willing to trust his friends and ask for help. Which is why DoS Sasuke is better than canon Sasuke.
I’m going to be honest, I wasn’t that fond of them before because, well, basically Kishimoto somehow ruined his original characters and his new characters simultaneously in the span of one chapter? (I’m looking at you 700) But being able to reimagine next gen through the DoS lens has made me appreciate all of the characters more.
Like, now I want to figure out how the Konoha Twelve become adults and decide (or not) to become parents (or not). And, you know, sometimes they’ll mess up–they’re not going to be perfect at things–but I feel like, just like how the generation before them (or, at least Shikaku) said fuck traditions, I’m going to do what makes me happy and marry the woman I love, that their generation is going to do the same. Or at least try.
Let’s see… for Gaara’s feelings about the situation… He’s definitely less jealous than Sasuke but more… afraid almost? It has to do with his self worth and, you know, his continuous surprise that people love him.
The way I see it, he accepts the smallest bits of affection from people and doesn’t expect more and he’s devoted to them in return (ie his love for Suna even though most people are still scared of him probably). And seeing as how Shikako is the first person who believed in Gaara, she gets to experience that first hand. Not Naruto, not his siblings, Shikako. And in DoS we see that he’s constantly surprised by how much faith she has in him (oh god my Shikaara feels).
So he’s not exactly expecting her to leave him for Sasuke for good, but he thinks he wouldn’t be surprised. (He would be and also hurt, but since that’s not going to happen it’s a moot point). That uncertainty and nervousness that the NGSS have with Sakako, Gaara has in a different way with Sasuke. And it’s not like he holds it against their kids for not being biologically related to Shikako, but a part of him reluctantly keeps in mind that Sakako is biologically hers.
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Okay, so, regarding mono/poly relationships:
It’s okay to ask your question–it wasn’t ignorant or rude or anything, and considering what I’ve been writing in my fic and A/N it’s totally relevant and not weird (I only took so long because I went to an event for five hours and I wanted my full attention when I answered this). So I would like to answer your question but I also am not exactly qualified, seeing as how I don’t have much experience with relationships personally and more besides I’m either demi/aro and ace.
That being said, I have witnessed a lot of different kinds of relationships and also somehow spent an entire year acting as some kind of romantic guru for a group of six women and their various respective partners and, trust me, there were a lot of situations coming up so… I’ll tell you what I know/think but I also warn you to take it with a grain of salt: I am no expert in this.
Different people obviously have different preferences and limits. And even then, those are general and occasionally there will be exceptions to rules. If we use Naruto characters then I’d say something like:
Sasuke is monogamous. Not even a serial monogamist (which is someone who only dates one person at a time, but has dated multiple people in succession) but–like I said in a previous post–a “one and done” monogamist. His “one and done” in DoS is Shikako, and his exception is Naruto. (Probably in canon, his “one and done” is Naruto and his exception is Sakura).
Which isn’t to say that he never feels attraction to people who aren’t Shikako (or Naruto) but it doesn’t really settle. It’s like noticing something on the side of the path, and you maybe stop and look at it, but you never actually go off the path or down a different path. Like, if Shikako (and Naruto) didn’t want to be with him romantically, he probably wouldn’t be with anyone romantically at all. That’s it–one and done (+ one exception).
… I don’t know why I chose that path metaphor, it doesn’t extend very well. Um… Keep in mind that mono vs poly doesn’t correlate with romantic or sexual orientation. So Sasuke is probably demiromantic bisexual, but since we’re talking about mono/poly that doesn’t really matter to this particular discussion. Also everything I say about characters’ orientations and preferences is REALLY just my interpretation and not in anyway canon for DoS (or… actual canon, but that’s just duh)
Shikako, in contrast, is poly. It’s not like Sasuke is her one and Gaara is her exception, it’s if she finds someone she likes, she’ll let them know. If they like her back, and they understand her limits then that’s it. If I didn’t headcanon Kiba as aro pansexual (and her as demi/bi-ro and demi/ace) she’d probably also be in a relationship with him–as it is their orientations don’t really match up so they’re just platonic bros.
Shikako’s dislike of marriage/being tied down is separate from her being poly. Take the Sai-Ino-Sakura trio. They are poly and about as close to three-way married as legislation will allow them. Ino is poly, Sai I’m not too sure about, and if Sakura is mono then she’s a different kind of mono than Sasuke. She’s more a prioritizing kind of mono (not an actual term as far as I know) in the sense that she kind of ranks who she likes and since Ino ranks above Sai that makes Ino her one. She’s probably at least romantically attracted if not sexually attracted to Sai as well, but not as much as she is with Ino.
And I’m not saying Sakura prefers Ino over Sai, or sides with Ino over Sai, or would drop Sai if Ino said so. But it’s like… for her, she and Ino are dating and Sai is their very close friend who happens to also be dating Ino. It’s totally fine with her, and maybe she’s even a little relieved (not just because Sai takes up more than his share of child rearing) but because she likes knowing that Ino is happy and loved and also appreciates someone else making her happy and loved. As a friend, she wants Sai to be happy and loved as well, but she feels no personal motivation/desire to BE the person who makes him happy and loved.
(I hope I’m getting across here, anon, it’s hard to articulate and I keep waving my arms in crazy gestures as if that will help at all)
If Ino didn’t want to be with Sakura, Sakura would probably move on to someone else, fall in love and be monogamous with them–she’s a serial monogamist, if you want an example of one here.
Gaara I am also not that sure about, mostly because I feel like even he doesn’t know? But if he is mono it’s definitely less like Sasuke’s one and done (+ one exception) and more like Sakura’s serial monogamist. But he might be poly–he definitely wouldn’t say no to having a concurrent relationship with Naruto (but again, that’s probably a bad example since Naruto seems to be a lot of people’s exceptions) while he’s with Shikako, but there’s really not that many people who I can imagine him with romantically so the designation is a little difficult.
Well, okay, I have written Dreaming of S(elfishness) and I feel like that has my subconscious headcanons there so I just need to unpack it? Hm… Gaara is mono or thinks he has to be mono or didn’t even know poly was an option, so when the engagement happened he didn’t even think to discuss the possibility with Shikako which is why she was upset. Because as far as she understood his actions, he got engaged and didn’t want to talk to her which she interpreted as him being mono and choosing Hokuto over her AND NOT TELLING HER ABOUT IT IN PERSON.
The problem with situation in the Walking Around series isn’t so much that Sasuke is mono and Shikako is poly, it’s that Sasuke is a possessive bastard and expects everyone to be the same. If it were two Gaaras, they’d be more than okay with Shikako being with both of them some of the time. Okay, that sounds weird. If it were… If it were Toki and Gaara, (assuming Toki is mono which) they wouldn’t have the same festering expectations/feelings of abandonment that Sasuke has.
Okay, that’s not being fair. Another part of the problem is that Shikako’s chosen partners are in different country and she literally cannot be with both of them at the same time. So Sasuke also resents that his and Sakako’s time with Shikako is reduced so greatly. As I said before (in this previous post) if it were Kiba, Sasuke wouldn’t mind nearly so much. He’d probably even be willing to figure out a living situation that includes Kiba and the nonexistent Shikaba(?) children–massive house, two houses next to each other, etc etc.
Mono/poly relationships are situational like most other relationships. In the Sai-Ino-Sakura trio, it totally works because they’ve probably got very clear channels of communication and even if Sai and Sakura aren’t romantically together, they are friends and make it work. I have seen such a relationship work in the real world–the Ino and Sakura equivalents are getting married next year and the Sai equivalent is going to be maid of honor.
The Sasuke-Shikako-Gaara trio doesn’t work because it’s not really a proper trio. Sasuke and Gaara? Do not like each other at all. They are not friends. Shikako was probably explicit about not being married to Sasuke, about being poly, but Sasuke probably didn’t fully understand what he was agreeing to but isn’t willing to break up with Shikako because she’s his one. I’ve seen something almost like this and it… well… I kind of saw it failing from the beginning because of similar problems, but they wanted to try anyway. The Sasuke and Shikako equivalents were able to break up amiably–but the Sasuke equivalent wasn’t the one and done kind of mono like her fictional counterpart so she fared better than Sasuke would.
It does depend on your limits and preferences. More people in a relationship does mean more limits and preferences and emotions to juggle–it’s difficult to manage, it’s true, but for some people it’s worth it. If you don’t think you can handle a poly arrangement, then that’s nothing against you, that’s just outside of your limits. You and your partner have to be aware of that. If your partner is poly and you’re mono you both have to respect your differences: whether that means your partner stays monogamous even though they would prefer a poly relationship, or you accept their other partner–maybe you’ll become friends–or, maybe, you might just have to break up. Relationships are as much about function as they are about emotion. If you love each other but you’re not compatible, it’s better for both of you to not be together in that way.
And, you know, maybe you’ll be more like the Sakura kind of mono–in that you personally are mono but you are okay (or even more than okay) with your partner being poly and having another partner. Monogamy can also be emotionally taxing, if you are each others’ be all end all. If you are romantic partner and sexual partner and roommate and best friend and therapist and war advisor and financial partner all together and it’s a lot of pressure to be all of that for one person. Some people can do it. Some people can’t.
I personally would probably be more of the Sakura kind of mono because I’m always so relieved when the people I love have other people who love them too. And that’s even if I were mono–I don’t even know what I am, so it’s not weird to not know and be interested and wondering, still.
Love is hard and weird and relationships are complicated whether there’s two people or three people or more than that. So long as everyone’s clear on what they want and what their limits are and when they’re not happy. Because it’s okay to enter a relationship not really knowing your boundaries and realize while you’re in the relationship that, hey, you’re not keen on this. You and your partner(s) will have to work out a way to fix this problem. Sometimes the solution may mean breaking up, but at least you still have the memories of when you were happy and learn more about yourself.
I think that’s it. Wow that’s long. I hope I answered your questions, even if you said I didn’t have to. I did want to, really, it was just intense and I needed some time to wrangle the words.
(Speaking of, thanks! I’m glad you like my writing – and even maybe some of my brainstorms/recordings if you mean all of the content on here? 😀 )
(spoilers for Steven Universe episode, Alone at Sea)
The thing about Alone at Sea and the “big reveal” about Lapis and Jasper’s relationship (via the fusion Malachite) is that it does portray a different type of emotional abuse that people aren’t used to seeing on media and thus don’t know how to understand it.
I know there’s a lot of backlash for this episode. People saying that Jasper is the victim and therefore Lapis has nothing to ‘complain’ about, people saying that Rebecca Sugar is a terrible person for writing their relationship this way.
I’ll be honest, when I first thought about Malachite as an unhealthy relationship, I did think it was the more ‘traditional’ version of abuse I’ve seen before–with Jasper as controlling and violent and Lapis being trapped and forced to endure. This is what their relationship was before they were fused–with Lapis literally as Jasper’s prisoner–and so I assumed that this dynamic continued into their fusion.
Which, as stated in the episode, is clearly not the case.
But that doesn’t make their Malachite relationship less abusive. And while it may seem that the direction of abuse has changed, that doesn’t mean that this isn’t still a vastly unhealthy relationship for both Lapis and Jasper. Lapis isn’t less of a victim in their relationship than she was before the fusion.
Because here’s the thing: yes, Lapis was controlling and hurtful–these are canon by admission–but just because Jasper was the target of this, just because Jasper has become a victim as well, does not mean Lapis is any less. In unhealthy relationships it’s not always one victim and one abuser–things aren’t as straightforward as all that, it’s not just a one way street.
Both (assuming non-poly relationships for the sake of this post) participants in a relationship can be horrible to each other, can be hurtful and mean and abusive to each other. It doesn’t invalidate one’s abuse towards the other.
As Malachite–a fusion which Lapis entered under duress/dubious consent, I’ll remind you–Jasper and Lapis spent the entire time at the bottom of the ocean, fighting each other for control. Lapis won most of the time but that doesn’t mean she has all the power in this relationship.
Consider dating an addict; one whose addiction is dangerous not only to themselves but to others around them. So as this addict’s significant other, either you’re an enabler or you’re trying to stop them. You cut off access to their addiction. You invade their privacy to make sure they’re not hiding stashes from you, keep track of where or when they are to make sure there aren’t opportunities for them to indulge, prevent them from talking to others who you know also partake in the addiction even if those are ‘friends’.
It’s not a healthy relationship even though you’re trying to get your partner clean. But it’s also not solely your fault. True, you could break up with them, but couldn’t they also break up with you? You’re with them for a reason, even if the addiction has become the prevalent, unhealthy part. You love them, not their addiction, and maybe that’s what makes you stay. Maybe they even play on that to make sure you stay. You are as trapped in this relationship as your partner even though it does look like you’re the one with all the power.
It doesn’t have to be romantic relationships.
And, sure, in the case of Jasper and Lapis that addiction is more like “destroying Earth” but the point still stands. This is an unhealthy relationship that Lapis has been trapped in, and even if its not, from the outset, the same tableau of abuse we’ve seen in the media over and over again, it doesn’t make it any less valid.
tl;dr: Abuse and unhealthy relationships aren’t just one abuser and one victim. Jasper being a victim doesn’t invalidate Lapis as a victim, either.
Oh man, a biological Shikasuke child? Well, actually, even an adopted Shikasuke child I’d be a little worried about.
Mostly because as they are still such children themselves right now (even with Shikako’s reincarnation, she’s a teenager up against monsters and murderers and that’s really… she comes off as a very mature and mostly rational teenager, but still a teenager) and I’m hesitant to extrapolate what kind of adults and thus what kind of parents they’d be.
(I mean, I guess if I were to write something like this it would be Shikasuke child traveling back in time (or, alternatively, Shikako/Team Seven traveling forward in time) so that Shikasuke child meets Shikako when they’re all the same age.
Which would actually be kind of hilarious and… I mean, it’s happened before hasn’t it? Naruto travelled back in time to meet his parents in the anime, right? And he doesn’t even have the penchant for fuinjutsu experimentation or possible Mangekyou Sharingan omnipotence that Shikako and Sasuke do.)
Uh, anyway. I guess the thing is that on a purely biological point, an Uchiha-Nara child would be pretty dangerous. The Sharingan mixed with a spiritual predisposition for shadows? I would not want to be on the wrong end of that kunai. But I guess you can consider the mix of genes in three ways: either the child will have a genetic preference towards either the Uchiha traits or the Nara traits, the child will have both with lesser intensity than their parents, or the child will have a unique combination of the two.
(I mean, can you imagine how horrifying it would be if all the kid needed to do was connect to your shadow and you get sucked into an unbreakable genjutsu? WHYYYYY? Or, alternatively, all you need is eye contact and this kid has control of your body? OMG O_O )
That being said the other “clan traits” of the Uchiha and Nara–being powerful but emotionally unstable vs being intelligent and lazy–would probably end up in a kid that, yes, would be at risk of both clans’ psychological problems.
But you also have to consider that a lot of Sasuke’s emotional problems are because he legitimately has PTSD and basically raised himself at the scene of his family’s murder. Like… it’s surprising he’s as well adjusted as he is in canon before the Orochimaru bite.
This child would (hopefully) have at least one parent around growing up (seeing as how both of them are essentially un-killable) and possibly biological/honorary uncles and aunts, grandparents, and the entire Nara clan (Which might as well be the entire Akimichi-Nara-Yamanaka alliance) so there’s no chance of this kid ending up like Sasuke because that’s a fairly individual set of circumstances that will almost definitely not crop up again.
Will this child possibly end up like their parent because of a different reason (like Boruto basically acting like Naruto, not because he’s an orphaned pariah but because his dad is probs depressed and bad at parenting)? Yes, maybe. But I think this kid, especially seeing as how their mother was integral in making the Rookie Nine/Ten more cohesive than canon, will be the “it takes a village” kind of child than the simultaneously-put-on-a-pedestal-but-considered-a-potential-walking-bomb that was Sasuke’s childhood.
Actually, I guess maybe I should try to extrapolate what Sasuke and Shikako might be as parents… but another reason why that’s so hard for me is that I don’t actually think they want to be parents. Like, sure, Sasuke wants to “revive his clan” but that’s a lot different from “having and raising a child.” Whereas Shikako, during the babysitting missions they had early on, had been good at it but had also not been super keen on it.
That being said. DoS Sasuke wouldn’t be weirdly exiled from Konoha like canon!Sasuke is, so he would be around more for their kid’s childhood than for Sarada’s. Which is not to say that he’d be around all the time (maybe his village lockdown days will ingrain him with a sense of wanderlust, or maybe he really will just settle down okay in Konoha without the driving need to get stronger/revenge always pushing him forward) but definitely more often.
Ditto with Shikako. I mean, I kind of wrote a thing about what I thought a future/epilogue Shikako might be like but that’s literally only one of many possibilities. She, too, may prefer settling down since, presumably, the Akatsuki/Danzo/Madara/Kaguya threat has been taken care of. And we have seen her be especially academic–when not in danger, her tendency seems to be to research and invent–and staying in a peaceful Konoha would help with that.
I don’t know, anon, it’s still a little difficult for me to imagine. I mean… I actually think–if they are both active parents and, more importantly, the two primary guardians–that Sasuke would be the one who is better at the emotional matters than Shikako. Like, if that child gets scared? Shikako would probably reassure them that there’s nothing to be afraid of–which isn’t bad parenting–but Sasuke would be the one to coach that kid through their fear, be like “if there is a monster under the bed, we will do this and this so the monster can’t get you” (and then proceed to teach their child Grand Fireball, probably) which is acknowledged to be a better method of dealing with your child’s fears.
I think this kid will be scary. I think this kid will be smart and emotional and ruthless. I think this kid will probably overstep their limits on multiple occasions, will fall into the black at least once, will hurt people around them when they’re angry. But that’s what a lot of kids are like–probably both in the Naruto world and in the real world.
This kid will have the advantage of having a loving support system. This kid will probably love their friends and family fiercely, will be loyal and the best person to have beside you in a fight and watching your back. This kid will probably invent jutsu that impress, bewilder, and exasperate people because do you know how much paperwork this is going to be? Let’s be honest, this kid will probably end up being the Hachidaime or best friends with the Hachidaime and will make their parents (and uncles and aunts and grandparents) hella proud.
So I don’t think we need to worry too much, anon, I think this child is going to be alright 🙂
edit: Wrote a bit about “Sakako Uchiha” in this ficlet here!
Ah, okay, you mean these posts, right? Or at least the ones that are connected… It’s definitely very interesting, and I do appreciate how OP has adapted the BH6 characters into the Descendants world. They’ve clearly put a lot of thought and effort into it and I like the decisions they’ve made for who’s related to who… but it’s not really my cup of tea, I think.
It’s a lot of characters to juggle, and it almost feels like the BH6 crew kinda of usurp the Descendants kids. Which, I mean, given the blog is called BH6-au-ideas makes sense–of course they’re going to focus on the BH6 crew–but I almost wonder if it wouldn’t be better to just either full on replace the Descendants kids (that is, Honey Lemon isn’t Evie older sister, she just takes Evie’s place, same with Fred and Ben, etc.) or, have them be separate and adjacent to the Descendants kids? Like–these are the villain kids left behind on the Isle, angry that they weren’t chosen? Or these are hero kids that we didn’t get the chance to see.
Personally, if I were to do this I’d most likely do just a straight crossover–no fusion at all. Because, I mean, Hiro and Baymax literally go through a portal into a different dimension. Like… whose to say that dimension isn’t basically the space in between universes?
And then, well, you can kind of go in two different directions–either Hiro and Baymax (and Abigail?) appear on the Isle or they appear in Auradon. Does Callaghan also go into the portal? Well, you can sort of hand wave some minor canon divergence and say he does. In which case, it’d be interesting to decide who appears where.
Because on the one hand, Callaghan as Yokai on the Isle essentially hijacking the villains while Auradon is distracted by Ben’s exchange students and the sudden appearance of Hiro, Baymax, and Abigail could be cool.
But what might be even more fun is if Hiro, Baymax and Abigail end up on the Isle having to make do with scraps to rebuild the portal, whereas Callaghan schmoozes and charms the royalty by saying a villain (aka Hiro) has stolen his technology (either Baymax or the nanobots). And then there’s the big Abigail is still alive reveal. So…
I mean if you REALLY want to hand wave some minor canon divergence, you can have the entire crew get sucked into the portal (because, well, giant dimension crossing portals in the sky) and end up in the Descendants world.
I guess if I were to try more on the fusion side, rather than strict crossover, I’d probably… hm… without directly replacing the Descendants kids OR having them completely derail the movie plot…
OH! Okay… so… I don’t super know if the ages would match up or if someone would have to be de-aged, but Honey Lemon as Snow White’s daughter (or niece via Rose Red). Which will make it interesting because both she and Evie are super into chemistry. [[Actually… given that the main four Lost kids are 16ish, maybe they’re looking into colleges? Or Auradon Prep alumni come back for the coronation? So that everyone is still the same ages as they are in their respective movie…]]
Anyway, so… wouldn’t it be interesting if each of the Lost kids matched up to a BH6 member? So… Wasabi as Audrey’s older brother who, during his own time at Auradon Prep preferred science to sports and wasn’t really that cool despite being royalty. But, you know, he stuck with what he wanted/was passionate about despite what his parents would have preferred. Alternatively, son of Tiana and Naveen who did encourage him to follow his dreams even if that means not being the stereotypical prince.
I do rather like GoGo as Aladdin and Jasmine’s kid, as the OP suggested–and like hell she’d put up with Jay’s bravado. Although I have heard, alternatively, that Jay is actually Aladdin and Jasmine’s kid that Jafar stole. And, I mean, the naming convention does still apply as Jasmine’s son. (And he was totally channeling street rat Aladdin in the movie). So maybe… ooh. What if GoGo was adopted (as a once street rat herself?) whereas Jay is the biological son of Aladdin and Jasmine.
And, I dunno why, I just really like the idea of the Hamada brothers basically being the sons of the Radcliffes (is that their name? the ones with all the dalmatians) and, well, considering their aunt has a Lucky Cat Cafe. Although maybe the Hamada family used to have a lot more cats but Cruella actually succeeded in making a fur coat out of their cats. Okay, sorry. That just got super morbid. My bad. Anyway, technology and creativity setting you free etc etc for Carlos.
Fred, obviously, is also a royal. But I’d rather not have him be Ben’s older brother, mostly because the whole line of succession thing and just why is Ben king at 16? I’m trying to think of which royal family would suit him best though… because on the one hand, him being the slobby older brother of Chad Charming could be hilarious, but on the other hand he’s pretty spot on for what I imagine either Rapunzel and Eugene OR Anna and Kristoff raising their kid as. Like, yeah, he’s still royalty. But not really the kind of royalty that uh, sorry to cross tracks but, would “play the game of thrones” you know?
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Uh… yeah, sorry about that. I kind of totally derailed your question. Or my own answer. Uh, I haven’t slept in forty hours so… please excuse any… strangeness in this post.
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