If Sakura is Morganite, maybe Inner!Sakura is some variety of black Beryl – maybe even just called Beryl? – to call back to her animation style, i.e. all black with white lines? Then when they fuse, the colors from Morganite’s pale pink and Beryl’s black would naturally flow into a darker red, meaning she could be called Bixbite. (Sorry, I only just saw you’d replied to that post – Whoops!)

(No worries, kuiper!)

Hm… see the thing is, black beryl is actually white/colorless beryl (Goshenite) that has a lot of black spinel inside. So Black Beryl would be a pretty cool fusion idea for a Goshenite and a Spinel but not really a good component gem in and of itself.

Maybe we could use that same color theory reasoning, though? So Sakura is a permafusion Morganite and her two component parts are Goshenite and Bixbite (so white/colorless dilutes the red to make pink)? Goshenite’s white/lack of color could be Inner!Sakura’s monochrome animations style or Bixbite’s red could represent Inner!Sakura’s passion. Hrm, but Goshenite means truthfulness while Bixbite is about harmony so that’s the opposite.

… maybe Shizune is Black Beryl and since both she and Sakura share the Goshenite aspect that could represent their medical training from Tsunade? (Or the sassiness they’ve gotten from her.)

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@kuipernebula: given sapphire and rubies are somehow different types of gem despite both being corundum, i don’t think we have to worry too much about what make the gem the color it is

That’s true, canon SU is pretty lax about gemstone naming/choices…

In remember to sleep. What if Naruto’s parents somehow got his body to Uzu. The Uzumaki were killed out in a gang war but thier old stomping grounds remain untouched because of the AI they were famous for still patrol waiting for an Uzumaki to return. Kakashi hasn’t looked there because he can’t. They are not nice robots.

Ooh… hm… I wonder if the Uzumaki vitality is their ability to somehow resist EMP? So the area around Uzushio is basically a no electronics area except for Uzumaki tech.

I do like the idea of wild feral angry guard robots, too, so maybe they are also there and, because Uzumaki tech, impervious to the Uzushio EMP.

Normally guard robots wouldn’t be a problem for Kakashi (as much as a walking trash can as he is, he is very skilled in his job) but the EMP makes him baseline human.

And hey, guess who are baseline human and Uzumaki tech? 😀

I mean, I still don’t know if Naruto’s body is out there, but this would be a good “we need to find out more about your origins” adventure.

So if Shikako is Iron Man, does that make lost-everyone -around -him Sasuke into Captain America? Or mystical-family-power Thor? RAGEKyuubi mode is the Hulk? Oh! Not-worthy-of-heirloom-weapon is Kakashi isn’t it?? (I know it wasnt supposed to be a one to one comparison but still).

Hm, I hadn’t really thought it all the way through but let’s see:

Ibiki is definitely the Nick Fury equivalent (with Aoba and Anko as the Phil Coulson and Maria Hill equivalents).

Ino is probably the Black Widow equivalent–I’m thinking her codename is either Belladonna or Aconite or Oleander (very poisonous, but very pretty flowers).

I was actually thinking Sakura would be the Thor equivalent–in the original comics form? Where Thor-the-hero wasn’t the literal Norse god, but someone who had received Thor’s powers by being worthy of wielding Mjolnir. In this case, Sakura has received Tsunade’s powers by wielding… I don’t know, powerful gloves? (I think the Sannin are the actual ancient alien deities.)

And while RAGE!Kyuubi-fied Naruto would be an admittedly great Hulk, I was leaning more towards him being Captain America. Or… Captain Uzushio? And then have Sasuke be Winter Soldier… Sharingan Soldier? The story line for them aren’t nearly as perfect a match as Shikako as Iron Hart, but it does put Danzo in the excellent position of Hydra leader so…

I don’t think Kakashi is an Avenger. The point of it was to have the Konoha Twelve be the Avengers (and the Akatsuki be the Young Avengers/Big Hero 6), and Kakashi wouldn’t really fit that dynamic? Unless…

Is Kakashi Deadpool?

… no, wait… um… probably he’s more like Wolverine–old and immortal and tired of everything, but goddamnit he will adopt all the angry children. All of them.

In remember to sleep I like the idea that Naruto’s body is asleep somewhere. It could be part of thier mission, quest, thing to find his body to see if he and Kurama can be separated as well as show Naruto how to human.

See I like that idea, too, but I don’t know why the Uchiha would allow it? Unless they don’t know–and they don’t actively use Naruto because they wanted the Kyuubi, not a child AI, not knowing that the android contains both.

In which case, where is Naruto’s body? If Kakashi really is trying to find the truth behind his teacher’s/foster parents’ death then wouldn’t he have already search all of the Namikaze-Uzumaki properties? That he knows of… secret lab?

Hm…

in remember to sleep, how old would the konoha twelve be? and if naruto is some sort of android (or at least his body isn’t flesh) doesn’t that mean he’ll outlive most of the characters? how would that be for him?

Probably Konoha Twelve are late teens/early twenties. So old enough to have some level of independence, but young enough that they aren’t expected to be taking over for their parents already.

As for whether or not Naruto will outlive them… I’m still on the fence about what exactly he is. Like, if he’s entirely a coded copy of the child Naruto that learned and developed (in which case is he still Naruto or just a copy) or if he is mentally connected to the robot body and his real body is somewhere, or if he’s actually a really advanced cyborg and his brain and some other organs are inside of the robot body but not so much so that there aren’t uncertainties of his humanity? I don’t know.

if you could choose anyone from your gem au to become a permafusion, who would it be?

The problem is, the Earth bound Team Seven gems are only two (and a half), and while there are the extended Team Seven gems that join them later, none of them really fit as a permafusion to me.

On Home world, though, whatever type of gems Kotetsu and Izumo are–they’d be a permafusion if they could be (maybe the Home world culture is different regarding non-matching fusions, or maybe Kotetsu and Izumo are the same gem type…)

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@kuipernebula: As a random suggestion (I haven’t followed this AU though, so sorry if this is covered) but Sakura could be a permafusion, with pre-time-skip!Sakura and Inner!Sakura as her two component gems.
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Ooh! Good point, kuiper… I do have Sakura as a gem (instead of human like most of the Konoha Twelve), more specifically Morganite (because it’s light pink and is connected with healing and such) but maybe instead Sakura is a permafusion Beryl and her two component gems are Morganite and one of the other Beryl types (I’m thinking Bixbite, Heliodor, or Aquamarine)?

yknow reading your gem au, i thought that you might want to check out houseki no kuni. the manga isn’t exactly like steven universe but it’s also about gem people. it might be a stretch but i felt like it fits more to the naruto’verse than steven universe. but seeing both sides are also interesting!!

Oh, have never heard of it, but thanks for the rec anon! I’ll check it out 🙂

I feel like, in Remember to Sleep, Sasuke would be a good choice for the “does cybernetics make you less human” question, where the tropes about getting cybernetics make you less empathetic and more evil come into play. Especially with the “family madness” that comes with the Uchiha Sharingan and Mangekyou stuff. Especially since Sasuke seems like a generally good person, before the curse seal and the desire for the Mangekyou sort of screw him up in a major way.

anonymous: Oh, I love the Reminder to dream verse! What about kakashi in that AU? and does Shikako ever create robots or AI?

Yeah, that sounds about right. There’s a lot of “the human brain isn’t designed to do this” in regards to the Sharingan, and their clan history is full of… dubious self/family-experimentation. (I think the Byakugan’s a little different, mostly because the Hyuuga probably have satellites which their Byakugan link to as opposed to the Sharingan which is entirely self-contained).

Ooh, Kakashi. I actually think he’s a private detective–he thinks he’s Noir-esque, but really he’s kind of just like in canon where he’s a walking disaster of a human being. I don’t think he has the Sharingan, per se, but Obito might have given him something LIKE the Sharingan? Or only one part of the overly engineered cybernetic amalgamation that is the Sharingan. Which is still enough to get some of the neat tricks, with a significant decrease in the mental problems.

Also, I like the idea that while he’s frequently on really tawdry or minor jobs (find my cat, is my spouse cheating on me, etc. etc.) he became a private detective in order to figure out the truth of what happened to the Uzumaki-Namikaze family. Which puts him on track to enter the story since, hey, there’s an android that maybe looks like your dead teacher. And that might also draw in Sasuke into the story since I imagine the Uchiha keep an eye on Kakashi (but so long as he’s seen as a frumpy string bean no one really thinks he’s a threat) so they tend to assign it to the rookie. Which is obviously Sasuke in this case.

If Shikako does make robots/AI, they’re probably the deer summons. Or she names her security system Heijomaru, she has the equivalent of a Roomba named Nagaoka, and Gemmei is her own coding language? I’m not sure.

So in the reminder to dream au what would have happened to his parents lab? Attacked by the corrupt police with Kurama? Oh maybe the tailed beasts are actually part of an ancient entity that the police stumbled upon and had put a piece in an Android to try and control. The one they used to attack Naruto’s parents escaped so they uploaded it along with Naruto?

@donapoetrypassion’s questions:
(I’m just gonna float some ideas/questions your ways as they occur to me): Shikamaru has a new cybernetic arm- in this verse, how did he lose his flesh one?

Does Shikako’s hypersensitivity diagnosis have an in-universe equivalent?

Oooh… Danzo’s stolen mind-control eye… in a universe where so much runs on robotics and (presumably) many people have robotic limbs…

If the word ‘enslaved’ possibly applies to Naruto, what word applies to this world’s equivalent of Sai? And why?

Shikako seems like an adult with a job- that do the other Konoha 12 do?

(Does the internet affect what kind of shogi/strategy games Shikamaru plays? Who he plays? Are there competitions? Is he a professional shogi player who doesn’t actually need an income from another kind of job?)

(As you can see, I took that invitation and ran with it. I’ll stop bugging you now, though.)

Oh wow, okay, I totally asked for this and I’m grateful for the questions, so let me just wade through these first… (Also, dona, your questions are in no way bugging me. Actually your questions almost always make me contemplate deeper ramifications for my AUs, so thanks!)

I’m still not entirely sure what happened to Naruto’s parents exactly, but I do think they were probably working on something to do with the Kyuubi. The problem is I don’t know what it is exactly, either, beyond something like a… sentient “nature-made” AI. Like… something on the scope of the internet. Or The Machine from Person of Interest. A sort of cybernetic eldritch horror that lives in machines and consumes code… so maybe the bijuu are a virus?

Um, yeah. So whatever Kyuubi is, the Uchiha probably had some kind of secret epic code to control it and the Kyuubi in turn took over the lab Naruto’s parents were working in?

Maybe they were working on putting the Kyuubi in a robot body so it could properly “live” except the Uchiha found out about it, wanted the Kyuubi robot, tried to buy it from Naruto’s parents, and ended up just taking it by force. Leading to the deaths of the Namikaze-Uzumaki family. (Unsure if I also want Naruto to have physically died but been uploaded into the robot body along with the Kyuubi, or if he’s still alive but doesn’t know it and his body has some kind of uplink connecting him with the Kyuubi robot body).

Shikamaru probably lost his flesh arm in an incident involving Shikako. I’m thinking something like… a tech expo and an overzealous rival/fan attacked her? But then Shikamaru got on the way and so there’s still guilt on Shikako’s end, as per canon–maybe this was pretty recent and the reason why she hasn’t gone home for family dinners in a while?

Shikako’s hypersensitivity diagnosis… it might be that she can’t have any cybernetic implants/mods. I know in cyberpunk universes, nearly everyone is modded to some extent, so the people who aren’t are unusual for some reason. Everyone has a ID chip, at the very least, but Shikako doesn’t even have that? (Which does make it a little ironic that she’s a genius with cybernetics)

Yup. Danzo’s got a Sharingan. I think in this AU the Uchiha clan are still alive, but Danzo might have stolen more the design for the Sharingan than actually plucking out Shisui’s eyeball. Then again, that imagery is gruesome enough to fit him.

“Enslaved” does also fit Sai, though perhaps it’s more… oh no… “groomed.” Danzo’s ROOT are actually human, but they have an implant that basically lets him wipe their memories and such and turn them into meat puppets.

All of the Konoha Twelve? I guess it depends mostly on what the clans would be in this ‘verse… except for Sakura who is, like in canon, a doctor/medic, TenTen who is also an mechanical engineer (though not so much cybernetics), and Lee who… what does Gai do?

As for the clans, they are probably like companies (or yakuza crime families) in the sense that the clan as a whole runs a business and the clan heads/heirs are probably the CEOs/training to be CEOs or are major shareholders who CAN live off the company but decide to work anyway. So for example, the Nara clan is probably a huge pharmaceuticals company (beginning to branch into cybernetics due to Shikako) but Shikamaru is also a professional shogi player.

Hm… what do the other clans do?

Someone on the forums was talking about some Zombie Apocalypse thing, and it just hit me how much I really want a ZombieApocalypse!AU. Like, Walking Dead/Last of Us-esque. 5 gangs (5 nations) of humans trying to survive their city being overrun by zombies (now I’m imagining Tokyo Ghoul for whatever reason?? What is my brain even..)

I wrote that zombie ask just as I was halfway through the first post, haha. I know it’s an overly done AU, as someone said, but the aspects of it are still so interesting to me. (I love Pokemon!Zombie Apocalypse!AUs!! Those were super interesting to RP/think about) If you don’t mind, I’d love any brainstorm of a ZA!DoS?? Aaaa *u*

… cool? Thanks for letting me know? I’m unsure what to do with this ask, since the ask box event is over and this isn’t even a title, but uh…

I have briefly contemplated about zombies/undead in the Naruto universe, and how the Edo Tensei might have consequences in the future and how the Next Gen might focus more on that since “world peace” means the villages aren’t fighting against each other anymore. It was also prompted by a Tokyo Ghoul ask, so hopefully this helps out?