Stars Also Dream 7/? (2016-09-29)

You and Ibiki and Obi-Wan Kenobi: a strange combination for a tea party, but that’s what life is throwing at you, apparently. Two jedi and two shinobi, but only three people around the table.

Seki Hijiri has gone to talk to the other prisoners–only one of them is a Wookie, thankfully, because your Shyriiwook is rusty and still way more than anyone else on this planet has–no doubt she’ll have them talking in seconds. She was in charge of your and Ibiki’s training when you first joined T&I, and as much as you’ve learned from her, she didn’t teach you nearly everything she knew.

Also, she’s part of the Yamanaka clan. Married out of the name, but not out of the family or the abilities, and there’s something about Yamanaka that not even the Force can trick.

“Master Kenobi,” you say, because even in this bizarre tableau of prisoners and interrogation, the man deserves respect.

“It’s been a while since I’ve been called that,” he says, taking on an air of nostalgia that does little to hide the roiling wave of regret, “We’ve met before, haven’t we?”

You smile. “Many years ago, yes. I was much younger then.”

He laughs, a quiet and dry thing, a dusty relic almost forgotten, “We were both much younger then, no doubt.”

Ibiki is silent, listening and observing and never letting on that he doesn’t have all the answers. Or any of them, in this case.

“A strange world you’ve found yourself on, Yoshino,” he says, and even you are surprised by that, “Bant’s only padawan. I told her she was being picky for waiting so long, but when she found you… it was a good match.”

Your smile turns genuine now, though, a little watery and wobbly, too. For a long time, you were the only one left to know her name.

“How did you end up here?” he asks, and at that you blink and steel yourself, pack away the starry-eyed padawan and bring forward the tempered kunoichi.

“I’d like to ask you the same, Master Kenobi. This is not an easy planet to find–I would know.”

You feel a flicker in the Force, or maybe you see it in his eyes–as if he’s considering lying for a second. But hero worship or convoluted family ties or not, you are a shinobi of Konoha now and you will not tolerate it. He gets the message and tells you the truth.

Ibiki is silent through the entire thing, which is good–it’s quite the story.

A jedi, a farm boy, two smugglers, and a pair of royal droids off to rescue a rebelling princess from the evil empire.

And true, this is a mission where time is of utmost necessity, but on their way the strangest Force signature explodes from an Outer Rim planet that would otherwise pass beneath notice.

The only lingering trace of that energy matches the stardust crystal your daughter thinks she’s keeping secret.

But you are her mother and you were keeping secrets long before she was born. Perhaps its now time to share some of them.

Somewhere, buried below crop fields that have long since gone to seed, inside a shuttle that will never fly again, is a box.

That box contains the physical evidence of your life before this one. Of your world before this one. Of metal and power and light that had nothing to do with blood on your hands.

(But that’s not quite true, is it?)

When you first came to this planet, the Kinokawas were kind. Farmers, civilians, who lived close enough to Konoha to enjoy its protection but far enough not to learn its lessons. They saw a young girl, alone and scared and heartbroken, hurt and in need of a place to stay.

You buried your shuttle beneath their fields–buried your past within their home–and wiped their memories of it.

Everything else was their choice.

They took you in, adopted you, and you became Yoshino Kinokawa–a normal girl from a civilian family trying to make it as a shinobi.

But you know the truth:

You’re not normal. You never were, certainly not after you crash landed onto a Force shrouded planet in a medical shuttle, your master and your life taken away from you forever.

So you buried that shuttle under your new parents’ fields, with a box containing your jedi robes, your lightsaber, and your thin padawan braid that you had to cut off yourself.

A lifetime later, sitting across from Obi-Wan Kenobi, over steaming tea and Force signatures tentatively greeting each other, you remember that his master died, too. That he had to cut off his own padawan braid, too.

And maybe, in these decades gone by, he tried to bury his past, as well, but now he’s dug it back up. Robes and lightsaber and Force flaring bright, metal and power and light.

You were never normal.

Jutsu makes unearthing the shuttle easy. The robes don’t fit and the braid is forever cut, but the hilt of your lightsaber somehow still fits perfectly in your hand.

~

A/N: AAAAAAAAAAAGH PLOOOOOOT? O_O

… help me…

Do you go on the recursive forums??

I sometimes check out the index page by @book14reader, but otherwise not so much. I’m a bit of a completionist when it comes to some things, so if I try to read through the recursive forums without the index page then I’ll feel compelled to read EVERYTHING and considering how much there is that basically means I won’t sleep ever.

But it’s a cool place and some of the most interesting AUs come out of it so I highly recommend it.

transeldritch:

transeldritch:

transeldritch:

anyway jokes by straight / cis people that rely on expectations of violence towards gay / trans people are Bad Content. 

(example: cis person looks at a trans person, says “god that’s unacceptable”, and the punchline is them saying “THOSE shoes with THAT skirt?” or some shit like that)

like the entirety of the joke is “haha I’m homophobic / transphobic” & the entirety of the punchline is “oops! I can’t believe you thought I was actually homophobic/transphobic!” & it’s just like ??? the entire substance of the joke relies on the person telling the joke to have the power to act violently against the audience.

i mean i wanted to make this post like a month ago but I couldn’t find the words for it & I hope I can help other people have the words to explain it, because like, for example this:

(x)

This joke relies solely on the idea that we, the audience of the joke, would see the statement “This is inappropriate. At your age, you should know better. Some things are just plain unacceptable”, and associate the word “this” with “wearing a skirt” rather than “cleaning the skirt incorrectly”. 

The punchline of the joke isn’t so much “ha ! I’m not actually transphobic!” as it is “ha! simply being and existing is dangerous for you because of people that think in the way that I tricked you into believing that I think in!”

The joke is only effective as a “joke” at all because of the expectation of violence.

THIS. THIS IS IMPORTANT.

It’s like… when people laugh when they’re relieved. They’re not laughing because the situation they just got out of was funny, it’s because it could have ended horribly.

You know those old cartoon gags where one character points a gun at another and instead of a bullet coming out it’s just a little flag that says “BANG” on it? Or it turns out to be a water gun? It’s like that. There’s a reason why it’s no longer used in cartoons anymore and why it’s such an effective horror tool (a la the Joker from Batman).

Imagine if, in a show, a girl was walking home alone at night and it cuts between her and a guy following her. So she starts to run and he runs to keep up, and just before she can get to a safe place, the guy reaches her and grabs her shoulder and turns her around–and then he holds out, oh I don’t know, her wallet or a tube of lipgloss or a packet of tissues or something, anything, it doesn’t matter, and he says “Hey, you dropped this, I was trying to return it but you just kept running.” And then “Okay, have a nice night,” and then he leaves.

And then a laugh track comes on.

You see why that would be messed up, right?

Relief isn’t a punchline. Safety isn’t something that should be played around with.

Dropped the DOS ‘verse on my new friend the other night. Oh my gosh, the reaction was brilliant. They were over the moon. Can’t quite remember it exactly, but it went something like “I love anything Nara,” and I said: “Mmm? Have you read DOS?” Cue curious noise. “What is this DOS?” I was shocked. “How do you /not/ know?” and thus the explanation happened, and you’ve either wound up with a new fan, or a new obsessive fan. It was a little hard to define which type of excited squeeing it was. XD

One of us. One of us. One of us.

That’s fantastic! I’m sure Silver Queen ( @jickysilver ) will love to hear it!

DoS is definitely a ‘verse that keeps on giving, and I’m glad that new readers are joining in on the fun. 

One of us. One of us. One of us.

😀

Stars Also Dream, 6/? (2016-09-28)

Once, when you had been a padawan for only a few weeks, you met Anakin Skywalker.

Master Bant and Obi-Wan Kenobi had been friends during their initiate years–which, for Jedi, is the closest thing to siblings you will ever have. Or, at least, you always believed so.

And if Master Bant and Obi-Wan had been almost siblings, then in a way that made you and Anakin Skywalker cousins.

Back then, that had been something to be delighted by, to be proud of. You and the Hero With No Fear the same, almost, connected: like maybe one day you could be a Jedi just as great.

When you met him–them, really, the Negotiator and the Hero With No Fear always side by side–you had been shy. You could barely say a word, had all but hidden behind Master Bant’s robes, face aflame.

But they both had spoken to you–actually to you, not just an extension of your master–and had congratulated you on becoming a padawan.

And you thought, then, that maybe you were looking at a reflection of what you and Master Bant would be someday:

Heroes, together, saving the galaxy.

Of course, that’s not how it turned out.

Not for any of you.

The second time you meet Obi-Wan Kenobi, he is going by Ben and calmly sitting in one of T&I’s interrogation rooms.

He knows you’re there as soon you walk in, two way mirror hardly a barrier for the Force, but he politely continues his conversation and his tea with Seki Hijiri.

They didn’t call him The Negotiator for nothing.

You say as much to Ibiki. Also, “I thought he was dead.”

Ibiki would never do something as overt as raise an eyebrow at you, only because he knows you can read him as well as he can read you and you can sense his curiosity emanating the way others can feel his killing intent.

“He probably thought the same of me,” you add, because why just hand Ibiki the answer when it’s more fun to give him clues and let him work it out himself.

Ibiki hums, offers his own information, quid pro quo as per usual, “We found him with two odd metal puppets and three other… men.”

“You sound confused about that, Ibiki.”

Ibiki mutters, “Some kind of blood limit, probably.”

You pause, considering, “Big or small?”

“Big and… furred.”

Wookies? Konoha is out of its depth here.

“I should probably take point on this one.”

The second time you meet Obi-Wan Kenobi, he is an old sand-weathered man with a life of regrets and you are far from the child who hid behind her master’s robes.

But he is still a master Jedi, strong in the Force, and you’re beginning to remember how it feels not to be alone.

He is, after all, one of the closest things to family from your past you have left.

You only met Anakin Skywalker once.

But one day–you know this with a wave of dread and such utter certainty that it can only be true, a warning from the Force, a premonition–you’ll meet Darth Vader, too.

~

A/N: Small installment which took me a while because I wasn’t sure which route to take for this series and whether or not I wanted to derail Episodes IV-VI or move alongside them.

I guess I’m going with the derailing route.

I really like the way you word and explain things. You’re very articulate (at least on paper 👍)

Thanks, anon! 🙂 I’m a huge mess when talking in person, but written word is a lot easier for me–easy to rearrange things to convey ideas better when I have time to process what I’m thinking and turn that into words. Also, metaphors aren’t as effective when spoken aloud, I find, or at least they tend to sound awfully cheesy when I voice them instead of writing them. 

Okay so, you may not like Boruto, (and honestly, I can’t disagree with you) but you have to admit that Himawari is pretty great. Such a cutie. A dangerous cutie

naruhina-is-love:

kratosspartanandgod:

jacksgreysays:

Boruto is… I have yet to find his positive traits, is the best way I can put it. With nearly every other next gen character I can find some aspect of them that I like or understand or sympathize with at least a little bit, but Boruto is basically like… self-absorbed privileged upper class cishet white guy who feels entitled to everything but doesn’t understand responsibility or respect? 

Like… even at the end of his story arc he doesn’t really understand how much of a tool he was being? He CHEATED multiple times in an exam witnessed by foreign delegates and against someone who is supposed to be his best friend and yet we’re supposed to root for him? I’m just… wtf.

If he were presented as that douchebag character who learns how much of an asshat he’s been and eventually becomes a better person through ~friendship~ and such then, sure, that would have been great. Fantastic even. I love Jeffrey Winger’s character development in Community from manipulative scumbag to reluctant group leader. I understand, at the very least, why Shawn Spencer from Psych is the way he is and him lying about being a psychic is how he can help people and his character development is great, too.

But there’s none of that for Boruto as far as I can see, and that’s really what he needs, I think. Kishimoto just slapped a hero label on him without backing it up and there’s nothing at all that supports that. He’s just been presented poorly, is all–no surprise–and he’s still new enough to me that I haven’t been able to crack his code. But it’s running in the back of my mind so I can do more Walking Around installments with next gen Team Seven, so hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

As for Himawari–I don’t know much about her either, but what I do know is that basically, yeah, she’s fantastic. 😀

Did you even bother to watch the movie at all? Yet to find his positive traits? I am sorry but nearly every thing you said about him is completely false and full of ignorance. How is he self-absorbed? This boy misses his father and only wants to him to spend time with his family and he knows his father is super busy. Also, he wants his father to acknowledge him, make him proud and not live under his shadow. If he were what you describe him to be, he wouldn’t even care about his sister nor his mother. And to compare him to traits that Tumblr hates? To compare him with that just because he is the Hokage’s son is completely degrading.

After being found out that he cheated, he learned his lesson, he eventually learned the meaning of responsibility and eventually came to respect his father’s position. He even learned how to respect his friends and learned teamwork with this teammates. This is how much better he became compared to what he was. Kishi didn’t slap the hero label without backing up or presenting it poorly. Sure, it could have been better but it wasn’t poorly.

It is fine if you don’t like him, but I would suggest you watch the movie, again before you judge him or even think about degrading him.

lets not forget he cheated so his father can be proud of him not coz he wants to win actually he didnt care being a ninja at all

beside after cheating he realized working hard is the answer

Please see full response to kratosspartanandgod here.

But tl;dr: in regards to the cheating aspect specifically, sure Boruto wants attention from his father which is something that he is actually entitled to. But cheating is still wrong no matter the end goal and even if Boruto intended for his actions to make his father proud that doesn’t excuse the fact that he cheated in a fight against someone who is supposed to be his friend. Especially after previously having been caught cheating against the same friend while playing video games after school which is like… the lowest stakes ever and nothing in comparison to an international competition that has serious repercussions in their careers.

And realizing cheating is wrong because it won’t make him stronger is different from realizing cheating is wrong because it’s a dishonorable thing to do. For example, plagiarism is wrong, correct? But someone realizing plagiarizing won’t make them a better writer isn’t what is wrong with plagiarism. Plagiarism is inherently wrong regardless of who is involved or what their motivation behind it is.

Okay so, you may not like Boruto, (and honestly, I can’t disagree with you) but you have to admit that Himawari is pretty great. Such a cutie. A dangerous cutie

kratosspartanandgod:

jacksgreysays:

Boruto is… I have yet to find his positive traits, is the best way I can put it. With nearly every other next gen character I can find some aspect of them that I like or understand or sympathize with at least a little bit, but Boruto is basically like… self-absorbed privileged upper class cishet white guy who feels entitled to everything but doesn’t understand responsibility or respect? 

Like… even at the end of his story arc he doesn’t really understand how much of a tool he was being? He CHEATED multiple times in an exam witnessed by foreign delegates and against someone who is supposed to be his best friend and yet we’re supposed to root for him? I’m just… wtf.

If he were presented as that douchebag character who learns how much of an asshat he’s been and eventually becomes a better person through ~friendship~ and such then, sure, that would have been great. Fantastic even. I love Jeffrey Winger’s character development in Community from manipulative scumbag to reluctant group leader. I understand, at the very least, why Shawn Spencer from Psych is the way he is and him lying about being a psychic is how he can help people and his character development is great, too.

But there’s none of that for Boruto as far as I can see, and that’s really what he needs, I think. Kishimoto just slapped a hero label on him without backing it up and there’s nothing at all that supports that. He’s just been presented poorly, is all–no surprise–and he’s still new enough to me that I haven’t been able to crack his code. But it’s running in the back of my mind so I can do more Walking Around installments with next gen Team Seven, so hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

As for Himawari–I don’t know much about her either, but what I do know is that basically, yeah, she’s fantastic. 😀

Did you even bother to watch the movie at all? Yet to find his positive traits? I am sorry but nearly every thing you said about him is completely false and full of ignorance. How is he self-absorbed? This boy misses his father and only wants to him to spend time with his family and he knows his father is super busy. Also, he wants his father to acknowledge him, make him proud and not live under his shadow. If he were what you describe him to be, he wouldn’t even care about his sister nor his mother. And to compare him to traits that Tumblr hates? To compare him with that is completely degrading.

After being found out that he cheated, he learned his lesson, he eventually learned the meaning of responsibility and eventually came to respect his father’s position. He even learned how to respect his friends and learned teamwork with this teammates. This is how much better he became compared to what he was. Kishi didn’t slap the hero label without backing up or presenting it poorly. Sure, it could have been better but it wasn’t poorly.

It is fine if you don’t like him, but I would suggest you watch the movie, again before you judge him or even think about degrading him.

I’ll admit my words were hasty and somewhat exaggerated, but they aren’t completely false. Boruto definitely isn’t my cup of tea and I shouldn’t have tagged what essentially boils down to hate in his tag and for that I apologize (that’s bad tumblr etiquette and I’ve removed that tag from that post and I won’t tag it on this post either).

I also know that he does get better at the end of his movie and that, in comparison to the two jerks with a heart of gold that I referenced in the original post he doesn’t have nearly as much content in which to undergo graceful character development even if he did have an author who could/would do such a thing.

I also, also know that suffering isn’t a competition of “mine is worse than yours, thus yours is invalid” and that having an absent father can mess up a kid, especially when said father has actually verbally said that his job is more important than you. That sucks, and it’s awful, and Boruto does deserve to be angry at his dad (although saying Naruto was lucky to have been orphaned is a pretty awful thing to say). But it doesn’t excuse the terrible things he’s done or his attitude towards other people.

Actions speak louder than intent and here’s what I do know: Boruto tore his younger sister’s favorite toy because he didn’t want to take even the chance that he’d end up carrying it for her. He cheated against someone who is supposed to be his friend: first in video games for fun–which is as low stakes as it can get–then once more in an international competition which had pretty high stakes. I interpreted him learning his lesson about cheating more about being sorry he was caught and knowing that cheating doesn’t actually make him stronger, rather than being sorry about the problems inherent in cheating itself–such as cheating being a shitty thing to do and dishonorable–but by that point I was already feeling uncharitable to him, so that’s clearly a matter of personal opinion.

Learning to respect his father and his father’s position–okay, I get it. Like I said, he deserves to be angry at his father and the Hokage position for taking said father away from him, and him eventually learning what that means in a point of view that isn’t abandoned child is good. Learning teamwork with his teammates I also understand–the original Team Seven definitely didn’t fit together nicely at first and it took them a while, too. (Possibly the entire manga if you consider all the bullshit Sasuke put Naruto and Sakura through).

But “learning how to respect his friends” means that he didn’t respect them in the first place–which is pretty clear given the whole cheating problem–and if he didn’t respect his friends before then that makes for a pretty awful friendship. That’s being a barely decent person in terms of his interpersonal relationships. And, okay, he’s a kid, fine. Maybe I’m being too harsh on him. But in your own words him “becoming better compared to how he was” means that he started off worse, yes?

So my description of him was harsh and, given that he’s thirteen and part of a fictional world, can’t really be accurate seeing as how he can’t be “white” and may not know whether he’s “cishet” or not. My bad. But the rest of it? “Self-absorbed privileged upper class guy who feels entitled to everything but doesn’t understand responsibility or respect.” Isn’t that what he is in the beginning of his story?

By the end of his movie, as you’ve said, he does learn responsibility and respect but he started off as a self-absorbed brat. He’s the son of the Hokage and–well, I don’t know if Hinata is Head of the Hyuuga Clan, but she’s definitely a part of the Main family of the biggest/most powerful clan in Konoha–which pretty much fits the privileged and upper class part. And maybe some of the things he wants–like his father’s attention–are things that he’s actually entitled to, but he’s not entitled to a promotion in a competition he cheated in, and he’s not entitled to friends who he is repeatedly horrible to.

I’ll admit: some of it is still overly caustic given that, again, he’s thirteen. I mean, in my defense, this is a world in which thirteen year olds are treated as adults and can join the military. I’ve been scaling things like maturity to match that, but maybe I shouldn’t since this is before puberty fully hits. Then again, fictional world, who the hell knows?

Boruto himself, when he’s older, acknowledges that he was brat when he was younger–and true, a lot of people think that about their younger selves. I myself admit that I was a near sociopathic dick when I was younger, but that doesn’t excuse what I did just because I was young then and realize now the ramifications of my dickishness. I still lost friends I should have treated better and I still ruined relationships with people that deserved more.

Boruto being a jerk when he’s younger is fine. Stories need characters who are jerks. Stories benefit from characters who are jerks. Jerks can be good guys–like I said, jerks with hearts of gold can have good character development and can be good characters. I just don’t think Boruto’s story was enough to pull him from jerk to hero as opposed to jerk who is beginning to learn how to not be a jerk.

From what I’ve seen and what I know, Boruto’s “journey to becoming a hero” is more in line with fighting the big bads and saving the world when I think what he needs and deserves is a hero’s journey more about personal development. He just hasn’t gotten that yet.

Kishimoto has created fantastic characters and a fascinating world, but I think we can both admit that he doesn’t always handle them in the best way. In my opinion, Boruto’s story needed to be handled differently for me to understand him as a hero proper and not just kid-who-can-fight-big-bad-villains-and-eventually-realizes-the-error-of-his-ways. That’s not hero to me, not yet.